A fighters resume dictates how great he is so right now you'd have to rank Ray higher. That doesnt mean skill wise Floyd isnt a better fighter or he wouldnt have beaten him if they fought. A lot of you probably agree with me whether you'll admit it or not.
Good luck getting people to even admit he has a chance let alone win.
Mayweather appears thicker because he's able to add more muscle due to the practice of same-day weigh-ins no longer being in place. Robinson would appear closer to his middleweight body at WW fighting under today's rules.
Floyd has never been one to add a boat load of weight from weigh in to fight night. Check the records.
So you claim. But I'll just say the sport has evolved, I truly think, the technical level is much greater today then back then.
Its easy to see. After watching as much as I could of Harry Greb its laughable to think he could beat any top guys today. Considering the color line that was drawn in those days combined with that silly looking boxing style, I would be ashamed to even put him in a fantasy match against the likes of even Baldomir.
If Jake De La Motta could outbox a prime Sugar Ray.
Upset or not,then Floyd has a real big crack.
But you can't compare both.
They fought in different eras with differents means.
ALL I KNOW IS SUGAR IS X TIMES GREATER,IN HIS OWN ERA AND A GENTLEMAN.He fought everybody X times,unlike Floyd who fought few,and the bests out of their primes.
WE DONT KNOW HOW SUGAR RAY WOULD BE GOOD IN 2010 MODERN.
BETTER TRAINED THATS FOR SURE.
Thats exactly what I mean about nostalgia. If you watch a few doc's on SRR then you'd know he was a womanizer, he smacked his wife around on the regular, Kept big entourages and was a pain to do business with. Sounds a little more similar to Floyd than you think huh? This isnt from speculation but straight from the mouths of the people close to him and his wife at the time.
It may hurt you to admit this, but todays boxers are more evolved than the boxers of the past. As good as Sugar Ray was in his day, against a fighter like Floyd he loses quite convincingly.
This is the exact argument I made a couple of weeks back for Chavez Jr beating and stopping Sugar Ray Robinson, but do you think these guys would listen? Of course not! Any fighter from today could beat any fighter from yesteryear, it's so obvious. John Ruiz would have given Muhammed Ali fits, before brutally killing him in the 3rd!
Good luck getting people to even admit he has a chance let alone win.
Floyd has never been one to add a boat load of weight from weigh in to fight night. Check the records.
I have and he keeps his hands low and falls through on a lot of his power shots. Floyd could make him pay for both.
Its easy to see. After watching as much as I could of Harry Greb its laughable to think he could beat any top guys today. Considering the color line that was drawn in those days combined with that silly looking boxing style, I would be ashamed to even put him in a fantasy match against the likes of even Baldomir.
What fights have you seen of Harry Greb?
So you're claiming Carlos Baldomir would beat Harry Greb?
This is the exact argument I made a couple of weeks back for Chavez Jr beating and stopping Sugar Ray Robinson, but do you think these guys would listen? Of course not! Any fighter from today could beat any fighter from yesteryear, it's so obvious. John Ruiz would have given Muhammed Ali fits, before brutally killing him in the 3rd!
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