Were Jack Dempsey's Gloves Loaded In Toledo, Ohio 1919?

[Stone Roses!]

Sorry my man but there is NO substantial evidence, only hearsay from a bitter man who lost a bet. Dempsey came in the ring WITHOUT his gloves on. He shook hands with Willard, his cornermen, the ref and god only knows how hany other people. Why didn't anyone notice the so called "plaster" Kearns loaded his gloves with?

There we have it. Discrediting and trashing Dempsey's trainer. The FACT remains that this is the account of the chief 2nd. Since when was Jess Willard an expert on loaded gloves? again. I would love to know if he was taught prior to the fight on how to properly inspect handwraps for Plaster of Paris. How many other people? you are referring to the crowd? well unless they have telescopic vision and an incedible sixth sense there is no way that the reporters at ringside or the crowd could have noticed if Dempsey's gloves were loaded.

[JAB5239]

Dempsey was loaded!!!!! It's been known for years!!!

Hard to deny the fact you've brought to the table....pffft!

[JAB5239]

There we have it. Discrediting and trashing Dempsey's trainer. The FACT remains that this is the account of the chief 2nd. Since when was Jess Willard an expert on loaded gloves? again. I would love to know if he was taught prior to the fight on how to properly inspect handwraps for Plaster of Paris. How many other people? you are referring to the crowd? well unless they have telescopic vision and an incedible sixth sense there is no way that the reporters at ringside or the crowd could have noticed if Dempsey's gloves were loaded.

You're right, the gloves were loaded. You've solved the mystery and everyone else is wrong!

[Stone Roses!]

You're right, the gloves were loaded. You've solved the mystery and everyone else is wrong!

No need for sarcasm mate. I'll take that as a sign that you have no further thoughts other than;

Willard shook his hand
Reporters were at ringside
Kearns lost a bet

real clever lad

[Southpaw Stinger]

A post I made in a similar thread.

Just for interest here are some pics of Dempsey's wrapped hands before the fight.

Dempsey getting into the ring

[IMG]http://i619.***********.com/albums/tt280/BoxingArchive/DempseyWillardHand.jpg[/IMG]


Dempsey in his corner before the fight

[IMG]http://i619.***********.com/albums/tt280/BoxingArchive/DempseyWillardHand2.jpg[/IMG]

No sign of plaster of paris.

The test sports illustrated conducted in 1964, using the method described by Kearns, they wrapped the hands of heavyweight contender Cleveland Williams with the plaster wraps. After hitting the bag a few times the plaster crumbled. They concluded it would be more hazardess for the wearer's hands than to the opponent.

[IMG]http://i619.***********.com/albums/tt280/BoxingArchive/ClevelandWilliams.jpg[/IMG]

Also Teddy Hayes (another Dempsey second) cut the wraps after the fight and had no trouble doing so. No trace of plaster. I think Kearns was just looking for a quick buck when he concocted that rumour, his fall out with Dempsey supports this.

[JAB5239]

A post I made in a similar thread.

Just for interest here are some pics of Dempsey's wrapped hands before the fight.

Dempsey getting into the ring

[IMG]http://i619.***********.com/albums/tt280/BoxingArchive/DempseyWillardHand.jpg[/IMG]


Dempsey in his corner before the fight

[IMG]http://i619.***********.com/albums/tt280/BoxingArchive/DempseyWillardHand2.jpg[/IMG]

No sign of plaster of paris.

The test sports illustrated conducted in 1964, using the method described by Kearns, they wrapped the hands of heavyweight contender Cleveland Williams with the plaster wraps. After hitting the bag a few times the plaster crumbled. They concluded it would be more hazardess for the wearer's hands than to the opponent.

[IMG]http://i619.***********.com/albums/tt280/BoxingArchive/ClevelandWilliams.jpg[/IMG]

Also Teddy Hayes (another Dempsey second) cut the wraps after the fight and had no trouble doing so. No trace of plaster. I think Kearns was just looking for a quick buck when he concocted that rumour, his fall out with Dempsey supports this.

Thank you very much. End of ridiculous debate.

[Clegg]

Dempsey was a big puncher and landed a lot of flush shots on Willard. Willard being dropped and eventually beaten is to be expected.

[venom1]

****in hell, how do you all know this **** when it was 1919? and i wanna know is how do people know so much about a guy who boxed before WORLD WAR 1 even

[NChristo]

****in hell, how do you all know this **** when it was 1919? and i wanna know is how do people know so much about a guy who boxed before WORLD WAR 1 even

Research maybe, newspaper articles, videos and such.

[Obama]

I look to the money. That's an outrageous bet to make. Kearns def did something illegal to try to give himself the edge. If he claims it was loading the gloves, so be it.

Probably wasn't plaster in the gloves tho. All the loaded glove cases discovered have never actually been plaster...it's not very effective.