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Originally posted by CarlosG815
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Oh dear god......
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Greatest of all time Ray Robinson could do whatever you can do and he can do it better.
When he fought Lamotta he was usually outweighed by about 10 pounds and fought weighing less than the Welterweight limit for his first 2 fights against LamottaLast edited by MarcusArkane; 05-28-2010, 08:48 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by BennyST View PostIf you think Lamotta fought even vaguely similar to Gatti, you've very obviously never watched him, or done anything resembling research on the guys you are saying suck.
Gatti was a classic boxer/puncher who fought on the outside. Lamotta fought on the inside purely. He was actually very good at slipping, rolling, ducking, getting under and using his shoulders, head, elbows etc inside to stop from being hit much.
There is a laughable idea that everyone from that era was a face first brawler. I think you'll find even the best pro boxers today that are defensively brilliant on the outside and inside all got their moves from 'old school' fighters. Mayweather, Hopkins and Toney will all say exactly that. They admire them and learned their skills from them because they can see what you are missing.
The inside fighting ability of fighters from that era is so much better than anyone fighting today not named Hopkins, Toney or Mayweather that it makes it seem like those particular guys are something ultra unique and special. The moves they use were common fighting techniques throughout that whole era.
On fighters being bigger: Again, you are entirely mistaken. The one reason fighters are so much bigger (and they are not better trained) is because there is more focus on muscle development (which usually will hinder a lot of fighters) and the weight issue of being able to weigh in a day after which allows a LW, or Ww to come in as high as 160 to 170. When you fought in that era you fought like Pac does now (ie weighing 147 at fight time) and Mayweather used to. People say Mayweather is a small WW. It's only because he used to weigh in at the limit. That's what it used to be like for every fighter back then. If you wanted to compete, you had to be in serious shape to make weight or you couldn't do it or had to move up to a much higher weight (ie. two divisions in today's world) in which you got blasted out by someone who did come into it in shape.
Your biased view is ludicrous. Try to really understand what you are talking about first. Immediately taking the view that everything today is better is simply not true.
Just been going through this thread and man! CarlosG815 got shot down in flames with some great points, particularly these above.Originally posted by TheGreatA View PostComment
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