Floyd Mayweather vs Thomas Hearns at 147lb

[them_apples]

Who would win and how?

Hearns would stop him. terrible match-up for Floyd.

The key to beating Hearns is pressure or a lucky punch.

you need to be tough as nails as well.

Both Leonard and Hagler koed him by putting on the pressure (although to be fair, in a 12 round fight Hearns would have beat SRL.

Mayweather doesn't have the chin nor the power/workrate to Beat Hearns.

Hearns has the best WW jab to date, ever. The best right hand and bone-crushing power.

Mayweather is a better counter puncher, he's a bit quicker and his defense is clearly better, but it won't be enough.

[1SILVA]

Hearns would stop him. terrible match-up for Floyd.

The key to beating Hearns is pressure or a lucky punch.

you need to be tough as nails as well.

Both Leonard and Hagler koed him by putting on the pressure (although to be fair, in a 12 round fight Hearns would have beat SRL.

Mayweather doesn't have the chin nor the power/workrate to Beat Hearns.

Hearns has the best WW jab to date, ever. The best right hand and bone-crushing power.

Mayweather is a better counter puncher, he's a bit quicker and his defense is clearly better, but it won't be enough.

Kudos on your analysis. Great points made and I agree with your assessment

[r.burgundy]

Saddler's best punch was his unorthodox left uppercut. He was a converted southpaw I believe. His style may have been crude to watch but he could punch and was especially adept at wearing down opponents over the distance.


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he was adept at wearing guys down cause he was a human foul.ellorde was kicking his ass.if sandler fought in todays era were his tactics would get him d.q'd he would be a bum,because his regular skill wasnt cuttin it

[them_apples]

You suspect but you have no proof. In 162 fights with more than 100 ko's Saddler was DQ'd 1 time. Im gonna say this respectfully...the truth is Ron you know very, very little of Saddler to make this judgment. The "Ring" magazine had Saddler ranked the 5th best puncher all time in 2003. '03 is after Corrales did his biggest damage as a fighter, but he wasn't on that list. I'd venture to say the committee put together to vote on the 100 greatest punchers would have been quite a bit more knowledgeable than yourself. I think its amusing how you try and discredit and dismiss fighters you don't know about. Don't you think it would be wiser to learn from those who know rather than argue something you aren't versed in?

162 (144 wins?) fights with 100 kos isn't an amazing KO record though. Those weren't all world beaters and thats 62 fights that went the distance or he lost. There are plenty of fighters that could do that given they were fed enough fights. I'm not doubting his power but it's not an incredible number really, It's just good.

That's all i'm going to say though on saddler since I don't know much about him other than he trained Foreman and could punch hard. ( I know....lol)

[TheGreatA]

he was adept at wearing guys down cause he was a human foul.ellorde was kicking his ass.if sandler fought in todays era were his tactics would get him d.q'd he would be a bum,because his regular skill wasnt cuttin it

Saddler wasn't exactly in his prime against Elorde, who was a classy boxer. I agree that Saddler relied heavily on his fouls but he wasn't completely without boxing skill although he preferred to fight it out in the clinches. He was extremely strong and durable for a featherweight.

Watch him turn boxer against Charley Riley:

[Jim Jeffries]

162 (144 wins?) fights with 100 kos isn't an amazing KO record though. Those weren't all world beaters and thats 62 fights that went the distance or he lost. There are plenty of fighters that could do that given they were fed enough fights. I'm not doubting his power but it's not an incredible number really, It's just good.

That's all i'm going to say though on saddler since I don't know much about him other than he trained Foreman and could punch hard. ( I know....lol)

I know Archie Moore trained Foreman, didn't know Saddler did. Thanks GreatA for setting me straight. Two pretty good guys to have in your corner I'd say.

As long as we're talking about hard hitting 130 lbers, how about Wilfredo Gomez? I know most of his work was below there, but still.

[TheGreatA]

162 (144 wins?) fights with 100 kos isn't an amazing KO record though. Those weren't all world beaters and thats 62 fights that went the distance or he lost. There are plenty of fighters that could do that given they were fed enough fights. I'm not doubting his power but it's not an incredible number really, It's just good.

That's all i'm going to say though on saddler since I don't know much about him other than he trained Foreman and could punch hard. ( I know....lol)

There were very few featherweights who ever went the distance with Saddler. He often fought above his division against lightweights who were more likely to last against him. His power did carry up though since he KO'd several lightweight champions. Most of his decision wins were also during the early part of his career. In his first 16 fights, 17 years old and a bantamweight then, he only scored 4 knockouts.

Sandy Saddler along with his cousin **** Saddler and Archie Moore worked Foreman's corner up until the Ali fight. One can see some similarities between their styles.

[Sugar Ram]

Hearns would stop him. terrible match-up for Floyd.

The key to beating Hearns is pressure or a lucky punch.

you need to be tough as nails as well.

Both Leonard and Hagler koed him by putting on the pressure (although to be fair, in a 12 round fight Hearns would have beat SRL.

Mayweather doesn't have the chin nor the power/workrate to Beat Hearns.

Hearns has the best WW jab to date, ever. The best right hand and bone-crushing power.

Mayweather is a better counter puncher, he's a bit quicker and his defense is clearly better, but it won't be enough.

yup,gotta agree..

[Sugar Ram]

hearns also said he could beat bernard hopkins presently.and this was about 4 years ago

ya but hearns said this in this recent mayweather mosely press conference...when asked whether floyd could beat leonard,and his response was that floyd was too small for them and would be very difficult for floyd and that leonard knew more on this than him...

[r.burgundy]

ya but hearns said this in this recent mayweather mosely press conference...when asked whether floyd could beat leonard,and his response was that floyd was too small for them and would be very difficult for floyd and that leonard knew more on this than him...

the more i watch floyd,the more i realize that skill wise he is absolutely 1 of the best to lace them up.he makes everybody fight his fight.we can take all day about hearns offense but fact is movement,angles,and defense neutralizes everything.fighters like floyd,hopkins,and toney understand this better than anybody.floyd sais before the mosley fight "he thinks boxing is about speed and power,im gonna show him its about timing and inches".if tommy doesnt win early,i think he would be in for a long night