I dont get Harry Greb's boxing Record

[JAB5239]

Almost forgot... before Christmas I read Tunny Boxing's Brainiest Champ. It as excellent. Tunny's life is the backdrop, but the book also focuses heavily on Dempsey, and devotes an entire chapter to Greb. It also covers the whole background of HW boxing from 1910 onwards and even includes a pretty good section on Benny Leonard, it's full of amusing anecdotes and very well written. 90% of the book covers the years that Tunny was active as a boxer, with his early life and retirement from boxing dealt with quite swiftly (which is a relief if you're reading it for the boxing LOL).

Here are a couple of my favourite stories from the book (I'm recounting these from memory not verbatim):

Benny Leonard the ***ish Lightweight Champ is fighting a boxer called Irish Mick Flannigan in front of a predominantly Irish crowd. The crowd are all yelling things like "kill the ****", in response to this Leonard starts dishing out a comprehensive and calculated beating to his opponent. Then Irish Mick clinches with Leonard and whispers in his ear in Yiddish "Take is easy, I'm really ***ish too". Like many other ***ish fighters he'd changed his name to get ahead and attract support from the Irish population. Leonard then mercifully KO'd him.

The night before a big title fight Harry Greb shows up obviously very much the worse for wear at a notorious speakeasy. He's staggering around with a floozy o each arm. The next morning before the fight the odds which had favoured Greb start to shift in favour of his opponent as word gets out about the previous nights shenanigans. Greb then shows up fresh as a daisy and comfortably wins. He'd been drinking ginger ale, his favourite tipple, and feigned drunkenness to improve his betting odds then gone a bet his entire purse on himself to win.

I know that you like Dempsey, and IMO this book tells his story much better than any of the dedicated Dempsey bios that I have read. It's really well written and a pleasure to read.

Those are two great quotes. You sold me on the book. :-)

Agreed, Im sold too!

[r.burgundy]

Hold on to your points and your illusions, its all you have left on this board.

gotta love the cowgirls fans.they always seem to take after thier team..but like i told you earlier,stop trying to have a title bout on the net.its not that serious.you have shown that you havent read **** and actually tried to ride ezzards coatails causehe actually has some knowledge.do your own h.w and ten maybe yuo will see how i see.these old dudes suck

[EzzardFan]

gotta love the cowgirls fans.they always seem to take after thier team..but like i told you earlier,stop trying to have a title bout on the net.its not that serious.you have shown that you havent read **** and actually tried to ride ezzards coatails causehe actually has some knowledge.do your own h.w and ten maybe yuo will see how i see.these old dudes suck

Having conversed with Jab on this forum over the past few weeks I can assure you that he's at least as well read as I am, if not more so.

[r.burgundy]

Having conversed with Jab on this forum over the past few weeks I can assure you that he's at least as well read as I am, if not more so.

no he's not lol.look through the last few pages.youve clearly read more than he has.i dont if thats some false sense of modesty or your just trying to make him look credible because he agrees with you,but look the difference in your responses.i ask you to post some numbers and you did it easily.he spits some crap about"im not doing your h.w,and i'll do your h.w for your points" lol.dude is a fraud who hasnt read **** on greb or any other old boxer for that matter.he's a soldier.and soldiers usually are scared of having unpopular opinions.just look at his last few posts lol.this geek actually thought i was waiting around to reply to his posts

[JAB5239]

gotta love the cowgirls fans.they always seem to take after thier team..but like i told you earlier,stop trying to have a title bout on the net.its not that serious.you have shown that you havent read **** and actually tried to ride ezzards coatails causehe actually has some knowledge.do your own h.w and ten maybe yuo will see how i see.these old dudes suck

no he's not lol.look through the last few pages.youve clearly read more than he has.i dont if thats some false sense of modesty or your just trying to make him look credible because he agrees with you,but look the difference in your responses.i ask you to post some numbers and you did it easily.he spits some crap about"im not doing your h.w,and i'll do your h.w for your points" lol.dude is a fraud who hasnt read **** on greb or any other old boxer for that matter.he's a soldier.and soldiers usually are scared of having unpopular opinions.just look at his last few posts lol.this geek actually thought i was waiting around to reply to his posts

Ez is a fantastic poster who I've come to respect and admire on these boards. If my knowledge isn't up to par with his I can live with that. I got no problem learning from those who can teach me something. You on the other hand.....you know **** about boxing and want other people all the facts for you while you just make baseless ASSumptions. Its kind of funny, but you're quick to respond when you think you're on to something, but no where to be found when the heat gets turned up. You've disappeared a number of times when you couldn't answer a question rather than admitting you just couldn't answer the question. You've also resorted to twisting truths, exaggerating and flat out lying. You're one of the LAST people who should be questioning anyone else's qualities as a poster.

[EzzardFan]

no he's not lol.look through the last few pages.youve clearly read more than he has.i dont if thats some false sense of modesty or your just trying to make him look credible because he agrees with you,but look the difference in your responses.i ask you to post some numbers and you did it easily.he spits some crap about"im not doing your h.w,and i'll do your h.w for your points" lol.dude is a fraud who hasnt read **** on greb or any other old boxer for that matter.he's a soldier.and soldiers usually are scared of having unpopular opinions.just look at his last few posts lol.this geek actually thought i was waiting around to reply to his posts

But he's right, we're not your servants. Don't take anyone's word for it, look stuff up yourself and present it. It's much harder to do that than what you do, which is to try and pick holes on other people's material, and if that fails throw insults at them. You contribute nothing to the debate. Your methods are pure troll.

[r.burgundy]

But he's right, we're not your servants. Don't take anyone's word for it, look stuff up yourself and present it. It's much harder to do that than what you do, which is to try and pick holes on other people's material, and if that fails throw insults at them. You contribute nothing to the debate. Your methods are pure troll.

lmao that is the point i been trying to get into your skulls.we can read all day,look up all day,in the end,all we can do is speculate,because we dont know lol.the same way you were able to post quotes from books,he should have been able to do the same.whats the sense in lying on the net?he's typed long ass paragraph after paragraph trying to disprove and make corny jokes yet when i ask what has he read he cant name 1 book,or has spoke objectivly and he cant name 1 author lol.he's a liar and i called him on it.as much as i would love to call you a liar,i cant cause youve obviously done the things you said

and secondly,he has been throwing insults since day 1 and in quite a few threads.he was very disrespectful towards me.so dont make it seem like i started with him 1st.you started getting outta hand also,i call you an idiot for comparing buster mathis to a klit and now you take offense.and that was after the monkey smileys,accusing me of being an alias,and callin me a troll..stop acting like a girl.its ok to disagree and do respectfully,which you or jab dont seem to understand

[JAB5239]

lmao that is the point i been trying to get into your skulls.we can read all day,look up all day,in the end,all we can do is speculate,because we dont know lol.the same way you were able to post quotes from books,he should have been able to do the same.whats the sense in lying on the net?he's typed long ass paragraph after paragraph trying to disprove and make corny jokes yet when i ask what has he read he cant name 1 book,or has spoke objectivly and he cant name 1 author lol.he's a liar and i called him on it.as much as i would love to call you a liar,i cant cause youve obviously done the things you said

and secondly,he has been throwing insults since day 1 and in quite a few threads.he was very disrespectful towards me.so dont make it seem like i started with him 1st.you started getting outta hand also,i call you an idiot for comparing buster mathis to a klit and now you take offense.and that was after the monkey smileys,accusing me of being an alias,and callin me a troll..stop acting like a girl.its ok to disagree and do respectfully,which you or jab dont seem to understand

So now you're a liar and a racist! You must be so proud of yourself!

[r.burgundy]

Ez is a fantastic poster who I've come to respect and admire on these boards. If my knowledge isn't up to par with his I can live with that. I got no problem learning from those who can teach me something. You on the other hand.....you know **** about boxing and want other people all the facts for you while you just make baseless ASSumptions. Its kind of funny, but you're quick to respond when you think you're on to something, but no where to be found when the heat gets turned up. You've disappeared a number of times when you couldn't answer a question rather than admitting you just couldn't answer the question. You've also resorted to twisting truths, exaggerating and flat out lying. You're one of the LAST people who should be questioning anyone else's qualities as a poster.

i respect EZ also.i respect you as well.but not everybody will have the same opinion and theres no need for lying.only facts i asked you for were the name of some books you read and the name of some authors who spoke objectively.then like a typical liar,you cant do that.i dont dont disapear lol .i have a ****ing life.im on the net a certain times and usually no longer than 1 hour lol.please post 1 lie.you can have all my points if you do

[JAB5239]

i respect EZ also.i respect you as well.but not everybody will have the same opinion and theres no need for lying.only facts i asked you for were the name of some books you read and the name of some authors who spoke objectively.then like a typical liar,you cant do that.i dont dont disapear lol .i have a ****ing life.im on the net a certain times and usually no longer than 1 hour lol.please post 1 lie.you can have all my points if you do

You said Larry Holmes fought everybody. Now man up and give me the points.