More Accomplished HW Lennox Lewis Or Joe Frazier?

[General Zod]

Eliminator .... THERE WAS NO GOING TO COURT BY HOLYFIELD LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO CLAIM....Holyfield could not fight Ruddock because Ruddock was scheduled to fight Lewis over in London, so Holyfield fought his WBA No1 contender Rid**** Bowe and lost...you are making things up as you go along mate

In 1992, the WBC threatened to strip Evander Holyfield of his title for defending it against Rid**** Bowe instead of Razor Ruddock. Holyfield obtained a court order to stop the organization. In a taped deposition for the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Holyfield stated that the WBC wanted him to defend his championship against Ruddock because Ruddock was managed by Don King

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Boxing_Council#cite_note-3

They threatened to strip Evander Holyfield of his title because he defended it against Rid**** Bowe instead of King promoted Razor Ruddock.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/346325-47-years-of-rotten-boxing-decisions-and-the-wbc-is-still-going-strong

If Bowe won and then failed to meet the council's conditions, the W.B.C. would install the Lewis-Ruddock winner as its champion. "The W.B.C. will recognize the winner of the Oct. 31 fight as the W.B.C. champion of the world if the winner on Nov. 13 doesn't fight him," Sulaiman said.

Sulaiman said that both Holyfield and Bowe had agreed in writing to defend the crown against the Lewis-Ruddock winner, but that Bowe was having second thoughts. Americans Holyfield and Bowe fight for the world title at the Mirage in Las Vegas, Nev., on Nov. 13.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/28/sp...l?pagewanted=1
Bowe was having second thoughts about fighting the winner of Lewis Bowe, before he even fought Holyfield.

[Snopkins]

frazier has the better wins, beating a just past prime ALI when joe was also just past his prime and had been blind in one eye since 1964. the shot, blind frazier almost stopped ali the last time they fought, i'm sure ali would have been knocked out in that last round, frazier was ready to die in the ring if he had to. lennox lewis never had that kind of heart, he even ducked chris byrd. wins over a medicated tyson and shot holyfield aren't as good as smokin joe's best wins

frazier was at his peak against Ali the first time they fought.You won't hear anyone else ****** enough to dispute this.


frazier was not blind and he quit in manila rather than go out on his shield.Qutting to avoid getting knocked out by his feather fisted superior is something Lennox Lewis never did.


You discredit Lewis's best wins and yet frazier's two best wins are over rusty heavyweights(one of which decisively beat him twice)who he caught coming off of a long layoff.


I won't even other listing all the ducks frazier made throughout his career.

[cotto16]

frazier was at his peak against Ali the first time they fought.You won't hear anyone else ****** enough to dispute this.


frazier was not blind and he quit in manila rather than go out on his shield.Qutting to avoid getting knocked out by his feather fisted superior is something Lennox Lewis never did.


You discredit Lewis's best wins and yet frazier's two best wins are over rusty heavyweights(one of which decisively beat him twice)who he caught coming off of a long layoff.


I won't even other listing all the ducks frazier made throughout his career.

Frazier was blind in one eye. And Frazier didn't quit, Eddie Futch pulled him out.

[CarlosG815]

I won't even other listing all the ducks frazier made throughout his career.

Because you CAN'T.

[Snopkins]

Frazier was blind in one eye. And Frazier didn't quit, Eddie Futch pulled him out.

No he wasn't.Eddie futch took the fall for frazier.It would have ruined frazier's reputation and legacy to learn that he quit rather than live up to the false "warrior" tag that had been placed upon him.

Because you CAN'T.

Leotis Martin,Mac foster,Earnie Shavers,Ron Lyle and even a washed up Sonny Liston.



All punchers strangely enough.

[StarshipTrooper]

No he wasn't.Eddie futch took the fall for frazier.It would have ruined frazier's reputation and legacy to learn that he quit rather than live up to the false "warrior" tag that had been placed upon him.

Leotis Martin,Mac foster,Earnie Shavers,Ron Lyle and even a washed up Sonny Liston.

All punchers strangely enough.

Isn't your anus tired? Afterall you do all your talking out of it

Poet

[Schmerzen]

Leotis Martin

to be fair, leotis martin had to end his career after the liston fight, his eye was demolished after the fight, even when he won.

[fight_professor]

Frazier was blind in one eye. And Frazier didn't quit, Eddie Futch pulled him out.

Yeah but he was way behind by r14. Ali was beating him into a bloody mess. The scorecards had him way behind and he was in no position to get a KO win.

As for Ali being featherfisted [not your comment, I am addressing both in one post], he has KO wins over ATG such as Liston and Foreman. He sparked a good percentage of his opponents.

[Forza]

smokin joe by far

-beat a prime ali, then gave him a close decision in the 2nd fight.
-dominated a HW division that had 10 times more talent than when lewis was fighting.

[fight_professor]

3 fight.

2nd fight Ali won handsomely.