More Accomplished HW Lennox Lewis Or Joe Frazier?
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Unfortunately the WBC celebrated its 47th birthday on Sunday. None of the boxing organizations are good for the sport and the WBC is no exception. They have had their share of terrible moments and they are somehow going still going strong...
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/28/sp...l?pagewanted=1
Bowe was having second thoughts about fighting the winner of Lewis Bowe, before he even fought Holufiled, lolComment
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More accomplished, I'd go with Frazier, Lewis has a missing piece when he never get a chance to beat Rid**** Bowe, and Frazier gave Ali his toughest fights in their trilogies, Also Smokin Joe being knockout by George Foreman twice (KO by 2 and 5) has by far faced a bigger puncher then Lewis being stopped by McCall and Rahman (KO2 and KO5)Comment
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"We shocked the boxing world when we took on and defeated John Ruiz. We shocked them again when we announced that we wanted the three musketeers. Mike Tyson was first, but he was not ready. It's not that he does not want to fight him, he's just not ready yet. We then tried to get Evander Holyfield, 'The Real Deal' but he would not make a deal, and he decided to fight James Toney in a fight that he's finished if he loses. And if he wins, then he's a possibility for next year. Then came Lennox Lewis, we offered him $25,000,000 to fight us, and when he realized it was real, he wanted to get rid of his mandatory (Klitschko) to fight Roy Jones Jr,, but after he put on that poor performance. he doesn't know if he should retire or fight Klitschko again, so Roy was left out in the cold.
Still, negotiations have commenced. Lewis` camp insists the big man seeks at least one more major fight before retirement. If so, here`s a wrinkle: Jones wants the bigger purse. He`s hinted at $100 million. "These guys are different animals," said Jones, who earned more than $10 million for fighting Ruiz. "That`s why I got to be paid three times the money in order to do it. It`s ******. Why would I go in there and not make a major, major payday? One lick could be the end of me. One lick from me ain`t going to end their career."
When Holyfield and Tyson signed to fight there was no demand for the fight because Holyfield was considered finished at the time. In fact Evander had to get medical clearance from the Mayo clinic before the fight could be sanctioned by the Nevada Athletic Commission because the prevailing thought was Tyson wouldn't just beat Holyfield, but might possibly injure him
Tyson wanted nothing to do with Lewis so he could fight a shot Holyfield, who team Tyson fought was going to be easy pickings.
All you have to do is look at Moorer performance in the Holyfield I fight to see that he was never going to be a good hw champion.
Ruiz - Ruiz had been hired by the Lewis team as a sparring partner in 94 when in the UK to fight Julius Francis, word is from guys who was there that Ruiz dropped Lewis the first day they sparred and that Lewis could not handle the "Grappling-Hook" style of Ruiz, the Lewis camp got rid of his services the next day
.... Ruiz fought his way to be the WBA No1 contender over the next 4yrs but Lewis kept him waiting 18 months as No1 contender then dumped the belt rather than face the man he knew he could not handle... Ruiz fought Holyfield for the title and put Holyfield on the canvas, something Lewis never came near to doing.... clear Duck.
Sanders - Cory fought in London on the McCall vs Lewis undercard, gunning for a fight with Lewis, when Lewis lost to McCall, Sanders kept up the pressure on Lewis from 94 - 2000 running up a 13 fight win streak and being highly ranked by all governing bodies, Lewis wanted no-part of the 6ft`5in power-punching southpaw... clear Duck
Now whichever way you want to look at it, for you to claim the likes of Mavrovic, Fortune, Jackson, Grant, Akinwande, Botha, Morrison & Jackson as anything other than Class C opponents when all those Class A contenders was available for Lewis to fight.. [then you are kidding yourself.Comment
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This is all imaginary drivel you are spewing out...
Holyfield was the undisputed Heavyweight champion, Bowe was WBA No1 contender by hammering Pierre Coetzer in a final Eliminator so guaranteeing him a title fight with Holyfield... Ruddock fought Lewis in a WBC final Eliminator .... THERE WAS NO GOING TO COURT BY HOLYFIELD LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO CLAIM
That make no sense as I have pointed out before in a earlier post, tell me one high risk opponent Bowe has ever fought?Comment
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Ali clinched a total of 133 times in that fight, Futch pleaded with the ref to stop the holding but Perez(ref) turned a blind eye to it.Comment
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While you encourage others to "watch it again",why don't you try actually watching it for the first time?
He certainly put his "heart and soul" into ducking virtually every puncher of his generation.
He didn't "beat that ass" nor did he attempt to.Ali simply outboxed him in everyway.
frazier made Ali wait three years until he was sure Ali was washed up to rematch him.He did all he could to avoid Ali while his feather fisted superior was fighting on a regular basis against the top contenders frazier was avoiding.Last edited by Snopkins; 03-21-2010, 01:39 PM.Comment
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