Felix Trinidad was an overrated cheater

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  • fisticwarfare
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    #11
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    One thing you have to think about though.....if it was only illegal in New York how do we know every other fighter not fighting in NY wasn't wrapping their hands the same way? And if that is the case, why is Trinidad's power punching percentage still higher than most against top fighters?
    Spare me the laughable excuses.

    Are you honestly trying to say that Trinidad should be excused, because every other fighter in the world MIGHT have been doing it, too?

    Trinidad was caught and exposed. That's that. If you wanna blame every other fighter in the world for doing it (without proof, of course), you can leave me out of it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by CarlosG815
      Bro did you post this thinking people would agree? I agree he got a gift in the DLH fight but the dude's BA.

      He's fought everybody and his resume is stacked with quality competition.

      DLH
      Whitaker
      Camacho
      Vargas
      Wright
      Oba Carr
      Joppy
      Mayorga
      Hopkins
      Jones (fight was a joke)

      What are you trying to prove?
      If the Jones fight is a joke, then so is the Whitaker fight.

      The man had illegally wrapped hands that gave him more power and people say it's legit. It's absolutely ridiculous.

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      • JAB5239
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        #13
        Originally posted by fisticwarfare
        Spare me the laughable excuses.

        Are you honestly trying to say that Trinidad should be excused, because every other fighter in the world MIGHT have been doing it, too?

        Trinidad was caught and exposed. That's that. If you wanna blame every other fighter in the world for doing it (without proof, of course), you can leave me out of it.
        Are you saying its not a possibility that other fighters have wrapped their hands differently with commissions that would allow them to do so? If its an advantage I have no doubt other fighters had and are still doing it.

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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Are you saying its not a possibility that other fighters have wrapped their hands differently with commissions that would allow them to do so? If its an advantage I have no doubt other fighters had and are still doing it.
          Of course it's a possibility. But that shouldn't excuse someone who was actually CAUGHT with it.

          By your logic, you're saying that it's okay for a boxer to use steroids, because others might be doing it, too.

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          • JAB5239
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            #15
            Originally posted by fisticwarfare
            Of course it's a possibility. But that shouldn't excuse someone who was actually CAUGHT with it.

            By your logic, you're saying that it's okay for a boxer to use steroids, because others might be doing it, too.
            That isn't what Im saying at all. You inferred Tito's power came from his hands being wrapped illegally. It was only illegal in NY and the bulk of Trinidads fights were not held there. If it was such an advantage it stands to reason other fighter would be wrapping their hands the same way outside of New York, no? So why didn't their power punch ability increase in comparison to Trinidad?

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              #16
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              That isn't what Im saying at all. You inferred Tito's power came from his hands being wrapped illegally. It was only illegal in NY and the bulk of Trinidads fights were not held there. If it was such an advantage it stands to reason other fighter would be wrapping their hands the same way outside of New York, no? So why did their power punch ability increase in comparison to Trinidad?
              But you don't have proof that those other fighters wrapped their hands illegally. You do have proof that Trinidad did, though. And that's what matters.

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              • JAB5239
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                #17
                Originally posted by fisticwarfare
                But you don't have proof that those other fighters wrapped their hands illegally. You do have proof that Trinidad did, though. And that's what matters.
                The point is, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL OUTSIDE OF NY. Why wouldn't they wrap their hands differently if it was an advantage and they were allowed to?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  The point is, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL OUTSIDE OF NY. Why wouldn't they wrap their hands differently if it was an advantage and they were allowed to?
                  First off, how do you know that every other fighter knew about it and did it?

                  Second, we can't confirm every fighter in the world has done it, because every fighter in the world hasn't been caught. Trinidad was caught, however.

                  So spare me the excuses of how others might've been doing it too, because it's pathetic. If they did, then shame on them, too.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by fisticwarfare
                    First off, how do you know that every other fighter knew about it and did it?

                    Second, we can't confirm every fighter in the world has done it, because every fighter in the world hasn't been caught. Trinidad was caught, however.

                    So spare me the excuses of how others might've been doing it too, because it's pathetic. If they did, then shame on them, too.
                    You seem to be clinging to anything in order to discredit Tito.

                    Out of 45 fights Trinidad fought 6 in New York. Of those 6 he scored 3 stoppages, 1 UD and lost twice. Before he fought Hop he was 3-0(2) in NY. After Hop he was 1-2(1). But his competition level went up and he was past his best weight and prime years. So while the wraps were illegal in 3 of those fights, it really doesn't seem that advantageous. And besides (maybe) those 3 fights, everything else was legal and on the up and up. He did nothing any other fighter wouldn't be allowed to do.

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                    • STREET CLEANER
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by fisticwarfare
                      First off, how do you know that every other fighter knew about it and did it?

                      Second, we can't confirm every fighter in the world has done it, because every fighter in the world hasn't been caught. Trinidad was caught, however.

                      So spare me the excuses of how others might've been doing it too, because it's pathetic. If they did, then shame on them, too.
                      En-lighten me the procedure that made it illeagal. Explain how he wrapped his hands. Don't explain to me how Hopkins explained it cause he wasn't even in the room and he gave his version of how to illeagaly wrap your hands and then wetting them

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