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  • #11
    Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
    against everyone except ali , foreman , valuev , vitali klitschko , wladimir klitschko , lennox lewis i consider tua a favorite.
    maybe with byrd , tyson and mccall it is about 50/50.
    and if frazier knocked ali down , imagine what would have happened if tua landed on him. ali , holmes and lyle said shavers hit them the hardest.
    just imagine someone with better power , technique and chin instead of him.
    it is only his lack of height and reach that ever troubled him from reaching even further achievements.
    you fuuucking idiot

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    • #12
      Originally posted by gimmeyapudpud View Post
      Not that Joe frazier is a heavyweight great,but he's usually regarded very highly.frazier has a weak chin and never demonstrated an ability to take a punch from a real puncher,Tua would knock him out very early.



      Joe Louis is an all time great due to the weak era of which he fought.Unlike the average Joe Louis opponent,Tua does fight with a pulse,and is dangerous at any point in a fight,he would definately crack the weak chin of Louis.


      floyd Patterson is regarded as having a glass jaw,but he was a terrific boxer aswell as a fighter with great speed and power.Tua has the power to knock Patterson out,but Patterson has more than enough to put Tua into his shell and pick up a wide decision.



      That's because you don't know any better.
      Joe Louis has a weak chin?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
        you are correct.. it was an IBF final eliminator against Byrd which Tua was easily beaten so he never managed to secure a 2nd title fight...Looking at the pro record of David Tua i find it quite amazing how this guy can be so overated with quite a few members on this forum even making claims that Tua would KO Muhammad Ali & Joe Frazier... claims which i find quite bazaar and beyond comprehension.
        Yeah, some people do overrate him to that degree, and some cast him off as a bum, but I liken him to Earnie Shavers with a better chin.. Comparing Tua's left hook to Earnie's big right, there wouldn't be a lot of ft/lbs in it.. Both had limited boxing ability but could KO a horse, and this is what made them very dangerous opponents.. The only difference being, is that Shavers did get 2 shots at the title with less titles up for grabs, so I think it's fair to say that a lot of the alphabet champs I mentioned, avoided Tua.. People can say what they want about the KO's of Ruiz and Moorer, but nobody can ignore the brutality of them, and with the exceptions of Valuev & McCall all of the champs on my list have been stopped by lesser punchers than Tua..

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        • #14
          Originally posted by TBear View Post
          Joe Louis has a weak chin?


          Yes he does.I'm not sure why that's amusing to you because most Joe Louis apologists aknowledge that his chin was weak too.

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          • #15
            I think Tua has a shot at Tyson, because Mike would not be able to KO him early, Tua is bigger and stronger and arguably hits harder than Mike, he is also deceptivley fast. If he weathers the early storm, while hitting Tyson back with his own damaging shots, who knows.

            I'm not saying Tua wins, but he has a good chance imo.

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            • #16
              i like the tuaman, but i like him for what it is. he loses to pretty much anyone with a world class chin and/or footwork. if you can take what he's got, or keep him off you, you can decision him.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post
                I think Tua has a shot at Tyson, because Mike would not be able to KO him early, Tua is bigger and stronger and arguably hits harder than Mike, he is also deceptivley fast. If he weathers the early storm, while hitting Tyson back with his own damaging shots, who knows.

                I'm not saying Tua wins, but he has a good chance imo.
                laughable post... Mike Tyson undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and top 3 hardest puncher who ever lived who KOd more than half of his professional opponents in the opening round... and you are claiming some fat overweight journeyman would have a good chance of beating him and that Tyson would not KO him in the early rounds even tho the fat guy was poleaxed in 20 seconds by Felix Savon the Cuban amateur, it is laughable these people who praise this fat guy to the extent that they even claim he could beat Legendary All time great fighters by KO

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                  laughable post... Mike Tyson undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and top 3 hardest puncher who ever lived who KOd more than half of his professional opponents in the opening round... and you are claiming some fat overweight journeyman would have a good chance of beating him and that Tyson would not KO him in the early rounds even tho the fat guy was poleaxed in 20 seconds by Felix Savon the Cuban amateur, it is laughable these people who praise this fat guy to the extent that they even claim he could beat Legendary All time great fighters by KO
                  f.ucking fat ******

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                    laughable post... Mike Tyson undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and top 3 hardest puncher who ever lived who KOd more than half of his professional opponents in the opening round... and you are claiming some fat overweight journeyman would have a good chance of beating him and that Tyson would not KO him in the early rounds even tho the fat guy was poleaxed in 20 seconds by Felix Savon the Cuban amateur, it is laughable these people who praise this fat guy to the extent that they even claim he could beat Legendary All time great fighters by KO
                    green K for you...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                      laughable post... Mike Tyson undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and top 3 hardest puncher who ever lived who KOd more than half of his professional opponents in the opening round... and you are claiming some fat overweight journeyman would have a good chance of beating him and that Tyson would not KO him in the early rounds even tho the fat guy was poleaxed in 20 seconds by Felix Savon the Cuban amateur, it is laughable these people who praise this fat guy to the extent that they even claim he could beat Legendary All time great fighters by KO
                      Well in that case, Rid**** Bowe was also poleaxed by Lennox Lewis.. Both were ridiculous premature amateur stoppages, and have no place being mentioned when we are talking about seasoned professionals..

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