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Stewart appeared timid as he did in a few of his big fights.. George had him early but Alex survived and realized later in the fight he could be most successful by giving him angles and stinging him.. Save for the Rope a Dope this was obviously the winning formula against George.. I still can't believe he got the win.. Or the Shultz fight for that matter.. I like him, too.. But, lets face it.. He got a couple gifts in his career..
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The older version of George needed to set his feet to throw his bombs. The way Morrison beat him was that he kept moving. You could hear his corner yell, "walk away" and Morrison kept George from setting his feet and getting off. Stewart did the same thing, as did Holyfield and Moorer... Though Moorer once forgot to and paid the price.Comment
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When Foreman returned weighing 30 pounds more than when he left ten years earlier he was matched carefully.
He fought all steppers and non punchers until he felt ready for Holyfield and Moorer but he thought he could get them to exchange enough to catch them.
The younger version wasn't as "mentally prepared" as the older one but the older one had alot of physical limitations also. Weighing in at 255-60 made him slow and unable to work in combination and made his defense weak and one dimentional.
The second coming of Big George was fun and gave boxing a boost but plenty of people thought it was a financial move only and a planned endeavor
void of competitive contenders. Most fans today would only know of two or three names he fought in his first 18 fight and those fellows were far beyond their best years. Frank Lux & Mike Jamerson.......really?
Everyone likes George including me but lets not go to far with the "comeback"
without those heavy hands he would have had a tough time with any well schooled boxer who used lateral movement.
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i always trip out seeing a 10 year old thread hahaComment
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I think the reason Foreman's face swelled up so bad aside from the punches he was taking was that his corner did a horrendous job of controlling the damage but to be fair to them, it looked like Foreman was too arrogant to sit down and have them apply eye irons on his face the full duration of the breaks.
I mean Dundee put the irons on his face for like 10 seconds even when his face was in balloon mode. It was ridiculous.Comment
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I agree. I always find it kind of silly to compare versions...Big George, as opposed to mean george was a novelty. Yes he was willy and always a threat...heck right now I think he might clean Vlad's clock...But mean George was a Liston trained protegee who would be a handful, be on a short list...Big George was as you say limited...Defensively he would hide behind his belly and that cross handed D that Archie Moore seemed to bring to the table. I will say this: I wouldn't want to try to tag big Georges egg, having to get through the belly....but at that time he was hardly a counterpunching threat.Comment
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Wrong again ray....Foreman had no defense in the 70's ,and no stamina ....his biggest attribute was size over THEN the much smaller opposition ,excluding Lyle where he was saved by the bell...speed was not a factor ,he timed his punches without wasting them unlike the 70's Foreman who had little technique and wasted many .
"Foreman in his 40's wouldve beat Foreman in his 20's,he became a better fighter .He became a thinker ,he timed his shots and picked them which also gave him more stamina.He also utilised his jab better ,he did slow a bit but i dont think it was a big factor because he shortened up his punches,that Foreman would have still lost to Ali,but it would have been a closer fight" A. Dundee
"I was a one trick pony in my youth ,in my comeback i paced myself and was bigger and stronger " G.Foreman
How anyone could think the weaker chinned ,less power,less stamina,non intelligent 70's Foreman was an improvement over better chin/power and smarter Foreman is beyond me.....and ray Foreman is known moreso for his gutsy Holyfield fight where at one point he took 15 /20 shots in a row "Something 24 year old Foreman would never pull off" and the Moorer fight ,not Mike Jameson as one of his first 18 comeback fights.......
Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-10-2015, 05:32 AM.Comment
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I want to compliment you on your strategy of waiting until the adults stop posting to post your innanities.Wrong again ray....Foreman had no defense in the 70's ,and no stamina ....his biggest attribute was size over THEN the much smaller opposition ,excluding Lyle where he was saved by the bell...speed was not a factor ,he timed his punches without wasting them unlike the 70's Foreman who had little technique and wasted many .
"Foreman in his 40's wouldve beat Foreman in his 20's,he became a better fighter .He became a thinker ,he timed his shots and picked them which also gave him more stamina.He also utilised his jab better ,he did slow a bit but i dont think it was a big factor because he shortened up his punches,that Foreman would have still lost to Ali,but it would have been a closer fight" A. Dundee
"I was a one trick pony in my youth ,in my comeback i paced myself and was bigger and stronger " G.Foreman
How anyone could think the weaker chinned ,less power,less stamina,non intelligent 70's Foreman was an improvement over better chin/power and smarter Foreman is beyond me.....and ray Foreman is known moreso for his gutsy Holyfield fight where at one point he took 15 /20 shots in a row "Something 24 year old Foreman would never pull off" and the Moorer fight ,not Mike Jameson as one of his first 18 comeback fights.......Comment
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