Did Roy Jones handpick his opponents?

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  • General Zod
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    #51
    Originally posted by tehMatrix
    like i said, he packed a punch, but he would be easily outboxed by an elite like roy jones
    I have no problem with the idea of Jones outboxing him, but what about Jones chin, could it take a McClellan bomb?

    Toney also claims to have footage of him and McClellan sparring back in the Kronks gym, he says he always got the better of McClellan. Maybe he will release it to the public one of these days.
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      #52
      Originally posted by Agentsmith
      I have no problem with the idea of Jones outboxing him, but what about Jones chin. Could he take a McClellan bomb?

      Toney also claims to have footage of him and McClellan sparring back in the Kronks gym, he says he always got the better of McClellan. Maybe he will release them to the public one of these days.
      gerald mcclellan lost to two bums, i doubt both had some iron cast chin chins, mcclellan was just easy to outbox if you weren't there to brawl with him

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        #53
        Originally posted by tehMatrix
        gerald mcclellan lost to two bums, i doubt both had some iron cast chin chins, mcclellan was just easy to outbox if you weren't there to brawl with him
        Have you found those fights yet, I know you were looking for them? He never had a good defence either during his time with Steward or after. I have never been impressed with the D of any of Manny Stewards fighters.

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          #54
          I dont get into this that guy ducked this guy this guy ducked that but one thing i will say about Roy Jones is that, what ever alleged problems Roy had finding credible opponents im sure he could of found better people to fight than the likes of Brannon,Frazier and Hall.

          That alone tells me Roy did not make a conscious effort to seek out the best challenges he could find.

          Look at the BS he tried to pull when Tarver was his mandatory, he tried to make him fight Harding, Tarver then lost the fight.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
            I dont get into this that guy ducked this guy this guy ducked that but one thing i will say about Roy Jones is that, what ever alleged problems Roy had finding credible opponents im sure he could of found better people to fight than the likes of Brannon,Frazier and Hall.

            That alone tells me Roy did not make a conscious effort to seek out the best challenges he could find.

            Look at the BS he tried to pull when Tarver was his mandatory, he tried to make him fight Harding, Tarver then lost the fight.
            the IBF ordered that eliminator bout between harding and tarver, the winner was to be jones mandatory, tarver lost, so harding fought jones

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              #56
              Originally posted by tehMatrix
              the IBF ordered that eliminator bout between harding and tarver, the winner was to be jones mandatory, tarver lost, so harding fought jones
              Yes because it was suggested to them by Jones & murad muhammad. Ive seen the pre fight interview before the Tarver vs Harding fight where murad muhammad explains this.

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                #57
                Originally posted by dd11212
                tyson said he wouldn't of fought jones at dat point cuz he was too fast
                Tyson couldn't have been serious. Jones at heavyweight couldn't touch Tyson.

                Don't let Tyson ferocious punching power overshadow the rest of his ability. That's what everybody does. They look at Tyson and only credit his punching power when in reality he was the most evasive, fastest, best combo punching heavyweight of all time. I really don't care what anybody says, what I just listed is my opinion, but if you look at the speed of Tyson compared to other heavyweights, the guy was just blazing.

                I would say that he could duck, dodge, and throw blazing combos at heavyweight faster than RJJ could at middleweight.

                Tyson in his prime was an all around perfect specimen of a heavyweight, inside-offensive brawler/boxer. I genuinely believe that NO heavyweight at any point in time could beat a PRIME Mike Tyson, let alone a guy like Roy Jones Jr.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by CarlosG815

                  Tyson in his prime was an all around perfect specimen of a heavyweight, inside-offensive brawler/boxer. I genuinely believe that NO heavyweight at any point in time could beat a PRIME Mike Tyson, let alone a guy like Roy Jones Jr.

                  Was a Jones-Tyson fight ever seriously considered? Tyson would have been way to big for Jones

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Agentsmith
                    Was a Jones-Tyson fight ever seriously considered? Tyson would have been way to big for Jones
                    Not that I know of. Somebody on here said RJJ could fight tyson and claims that Tyson himself admitted he wouldn't fight RJJ because of his speed.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by CarlosG815
                      Not that I know of. Somebody on here said RJJ could fight tyson and claims that Tyson himself admitted he wouldn't fight RJJ because of his speed.
                      Thanks for replying.
                      I have no problem with Jones not fighting the elite hw they were all just to big for him come fight night some of those guys would have outweighed him by 40+ lbs.I do know that HBO was interested in a match up between Jones and Lewis, but I think Lewis said he wasnt interested in such a fight.

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