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  • #11
    Originally posted by Yaman View Post
    I can answer your questions.


    Golota is not getting a free pass from me. He should be called out on his cowardice behavior like any other fighter in his place would have been. There were no screws loose. He simply wanted a way out because he couldn't deal with the adversity. He knew exactly what he was doing.
    OK. I can buy that. A bully/coward mob-enforcer type can't take it when his prey actually fights back. To quote Cus D'Amato:

    "When two men are fighting, what you're watching is more a contest of wills than of skills, with the stronger will usually overcoming the skill. The skill will prevail only when it is so superior to the other man's skill that the will is not tested."

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    • #12
      Get hit in the crotch by a guy Golota's size and you can't move. Get hit in the crotch several times and you are lucky to stand against the ropes. Get hit low as much as Bowe did and boxing is not the only thing you retire from!

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      • #13
        Nah im sorry but i can't agree with you bro, Rid**** Bowe got his ass whooped in the 2nd fight, he only won rounds 3 and 4, but other than that he was literally getting totured in there.

        Some rounds were very hard to watch, and Rid**** Bowe after the 4th round, could only land 1 or 2 big shots here and there. The fight should of been stopped and maybe Rid**** Bowe wouldn't be as bad as he is now.

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        • #14
          Bowe's decline came so fast it was unbelievable! There he is in 1995 blitzing an actually quite useful Herbie Hide, motor mouth Gonzales and being the first guy to stop Holyfield (only happened once since!)

          Then 1996 he turns up heavy and overconfident for Golota and simply ships too much punishment! For the rematch he certainly trains hard but comes in too low in weight and for the first time in his career has lost his normally excellent chin. He looks spindly and unbalanced but still has all the heart of a champion.

          After shipping a bad beating in the later rounds the post fight interview has him slurring his words. And thus ends his career as a world championship level boxer......shame! I'd have liked to see the best version of Bowe fight Lewis or Tyson. Potentially I think he could have been the best heavyweight of the 90s.

          Golota was a good heavyweight too, but the one round loss to Lewis and the two round loss to Tyson indicated to me that he was just below world class.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
            Bowe's decline came so fast it was unbelievable! There he is in 1995 blitzing an actually quite useful Herbie Hide, motor mouth Gonzales and being the first guy to stop Holyfield (only happened once since!)

            Then 1996 he turns up heavy and overconfident for Golota and simply ships too much punishment! For the rematch he certainly trains hard but comes in too low in weight and for the first time in his career has lost his normally excellent chin. He looks spindly and unbalanced but still has all the heart of a champion.

            After shipping a bad beating in the later rounds the post fight interview has him slurring his words. And thus ends his career as a world championship level boxer......shame! I'd have liked to see the best version of Bowe fight Lewis or Tyson. Potentially I think he could have been the best heavyweight of the 90s.

            Golota was a good heavyweight too, but the one round loss to Lewis and the two round loss to Tyson indicated to me that he was just below world class.
            I dont necessarily agree with that. I thought Bowe looked terrible against Holyfield 3, Donald and Hide and even though its a great shock to see Bowe lose to Golota when you look back you can see the signs were there imo. Imagine what might of happened to Bowe in that 3rd fight had Holy had the energy to follow up after dropping him.


            Just to reiterate i reckon Bowe would of beaten Golota in his prime.

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            • #16
              golota in his early days was dirty.when he got in trouble he would intentionally foul a guy to slow him down.the reason bowe had such trouble with golota was not just the lowblows.golota had an 84" reach & was able to jab with the jabber.his jab was hard & accurate & golota was the first guy bowe fought who had as good a jab as he did.bowe couldn't lean on or push golota around.bowe usually had a distinct size advantage vs most of his notable opponents.lennox would have crushed bowe IMO.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                golota in his early days was dirty.when he got in trouble he would intentionally foul a guy to slow him down.the reason bowe had such trouble with golota was not just the lowblows.golota had an 84" reach & was able to jab with the jabber.his jab was hard & accurate & golota was the first guy bowe fought who had as good a jab as he did.bowe couldn't lean on or push golota around.bowe usually had a distinct size advantage vs most of his notable opponents.lennox would have crushed bowe IMO.
                Aren't you are a Tunney ALT?

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                • #18
                  Hi Dynamite,

                  I totally see your angle. But I actually rated Hide quite highly, if he had a better chin and a little more size......well who knows? He did out box Bowe early but then he was destroyed! As for Holyfield 3, Evander looked great in spurts but you cant argue with a stoppage victory for Bowe, I didn't think he looked bad in that fight, he was accurate even though his defense was a bit leaky. As for Holyfield having the energy, well no one ever managed to stop Bowe! Holyfield fought too well that night for a guy apparently suffering from flu and recovering from a heart attack. Ha ha. As for Larry Donald, who looked good against him? He just had one of those styles.

                  I totally agree with you though, I think prime Bowe does a Lennox Lewis on Golota!

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                    Hi Dynamite,

                    I totally see your angle. But I actually rated Hide quite highly, if he had a better chin and a little more size......well who knows? He did out box Bowe early but then he was destroyed! As for Holyfield 3, Evander looked great in spurts but you cant argue with a stoppage victory for Bowe, I didn't think he looked bad in that fight, he was accurate even though his defense was a bit leaky. As for Holyfield having the energy, well no one ever managed to stop Bowe! Holyfield fought too well that night for a guy apparently suffering from flu and recovering from a heart attack. Ha ha. As for Larry Donald, who looked good against him? He just had one of those styles.

                    I totally agree with you though, I think prime Bowe does a Lennox Lewis on Golota!
                    I think Bowe did show signs of slipping against Hide. Hide probably spent more time on the canvas than he did upright but I've struggled to find the punches Bowe hit him with. On the other hand Hide was hitting Bowe at will. Hide seemed to lose because of his nerves since Bowe wasn't doing a spectacular job in winning.

                    He KO'd Holyfield but he was nearly KO'd too by Holyfield of all people. Again it seemed that Holyfield lost that fight more than Bowe had won it, silly as it may sound.

                    Bowe looked good against Gonzalez though.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                      Aren't you are a Tunney ALT?
                      LOL! No I'm joe strong from Edmonton Canada,not Canada joe.....I'm a casual poster on heavyweights & don't like the klitschkos...my favorite boxers were lennox,golota,Botha,Holyfield...I'm even a tye fields fan because he fights out of my hometown...LOL! I don't go to the nude beach ball gazing either...LOL!

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