Views on Golota vs Bowe fights

[Dynamite Kid]

Hi Dynamite,

I totally see your angle. But I actually rated Hide quite highly, if he had a better chin and a little more size......well who knows? He did out box Bowe early but then he was destroyed! As for Holyfield 3, Evander looked great in spurts but you cant argue with a stoppage victory for Bowe, I didn't think he looked bad in that fight, he was accurate even though his defense was a bit leaky. As for Holyfield having the energy, well no one ever managed to stop Bowe! Holyfield fought too well that night for a guy apparently suffering from flu and recovering from a heart attack. Ha ha. As for Larry Donald, who looked good against him? He just had one of those styles.

I totally agree with you though, I think prime Bowe does a Lennox Lewis on Golota!

I think Bowe did show signs of slipping against Hide. Hide probably spent more time on the canvas than he did upright but I've struggled to find the punches Bowe hit him with. On the other hand Hide was hitting Bowe at will. Hide seemed to lose because of his nerves since Bowe wasn't doing a spectacular job in winning.

He KO'd Holyfield but he was nearly KO'd too by Holyfield of all people. Again it seemed that Holyfield lost that fight more than Bowe had won it, silly as it may sound.

Bowe looked good against Gonzalez though.

Yeah thats fair enough.

I deffo think he would of beaten Lewis. Lewis's overhand right was the only weapon that could of given Bowe trouble.



TheGreatA couldn't agree more.

Am i right in saying that Gonzalez was a bit left handed happy like Biggs and did not let the right hand go enough?

[TheGreatA]

Yeah thats fair enough.

I deffo think he would of beaten Lewis. Lewis's overhand right was the only weapon that could of given Bowe trouble.

TheGreatA couldn't agree more.

Am i right in saying that Gonzalez was a bit left handed happy like Biggs and did not let the right hand go enough?

No you wouldn't be wrong. He was amateurish and never put in an effort to improve as a pro. The show he put on against an old Renaldo Snipes was viewed as a bit of a disgrace. Gonzalez taunted him and didn't actually try to knock him out until the last round.

I'd have to say that Gonzalez is among the laziest boxers I've ever seen. I know a bit about him since he defected in Finland and lived here after his boxing career was over. He spent his best days as an amateur (actually beat Bowe, Lewis) and cashed in as a pro, signing a contract for millions of dollars very early on. There was no need for him to fight since he had already made his money.

To a certain extent I believe that was the downfall of Bowe as well, since he was given big paydays to fight the likes of Michael Dokes & Jesse Ferguson on HBO. Tougher challenges against for example Lennox Lewis would have forced him to stay in shape and keep his skills sharp.

[Dynamite Kid]

No you wouldn't be wrong. He was amateurish and never put in an effort to improve as a pro. The show he put on against an old Renaldo Snipes was viewed as a bit of a disgrace. Gonzalez taunted him and didn't actually try to knock him out until the last round.

I'd have to say that Gonzalez is among the laziest boxers I've ever seen. I know a bit about him since he defected in Finland and lived here after his boxing career was over. He spent his best days as an amateur (actually beat Bowe, Lewis) and cashed in as a pro, signing a contract for millions of dollars very early on. There was no need for him to fight since he had already made his money.

To a certain extent I believe that was the downfall of Bowe as well, since he was given big paydays to fight the likes of Michael Dokes & Jesse Ferguson on HBO. Tougher challenges against for example Lennox Lewis would have forced him to stay in shape and keep his skills sharp.

Cheers TheGreatA.

The reason i brought that up is because stylistically that type of opponent is made for Rid**** Bowe and maybe that might explain why he was still able to beat Gonzalez despite being past it.

I saw his fight with Witherspoon, Spoon did a better job than Bowe imo.

[TheGreatA]

Cheers TheGreatA.

The reason i brought that up is because stylistically that type of opponent is made for Rid**** Bowe and maybe that might explain why he was still able to beat Gonzalez despite being past it.

I saw his fight with Witherspoon, Spoon did a better job than Bowe imo.

Gonzalez ended up being just hype but I'd say that whatever ability he may have had, Bowe beat it out of him. It was an embarrassing loss considering the trash Gonzalez had talked. Witherspoon destroyed him and so did Ross Puritty.

[Leevi_P]

I can't even watch Bowe - Golota fights.. One of my favorite fighters gets terrible beating and braindamage.. PERKELE!

[Dynamite Kid]

Gonzalez ended up being just hype but I'd say that whatever ability he may have had, Bowe beat it out of him. It was an embarrassing loss considering the trash Gonzalez had talked. Witherspoon destroyed him and so did Ross Puritty.

TheGreatA do you know much about Carmen Basillio? i downloaded some DVD's of him but have not got around to watching him they yet.

[TheGreatA]

I can't even watch Bowe - Golota fights.. One of my favorite fighters gets terrible beating and braindamage.. PERKELE!

Hyviä otteluita molemmat, mutta samasta syystä en kyllä viitsi oikein katsoa.

Bowella ei ollut muuta enää jäljellä kuin sisua ja Golotalla oli kaikki tarpeelliseet välineet olla maailmanmestari paitsi sisua. Kysyttiin minkä vuoksi löi Bowea vyön alle ja vastas koska se ei olis muuten pysynyt alhaalla... Heh heh.

TheGreatA do you know much about Carmen Basillio? i downloaded some DVD's of him but have not got around to watching him they yet.

At first he might come across as a one-dimensional brawler but there was a lot more to his game than that. Of course the main thing about Basilio is that he was one of the toughest fighters to ever live, but he was also great at forcing the opponent to fight his fight and developed some boxing skills over the years. He's not exactly Joe Frazier but a lot like him in that he'll make you fight every second of every round. He depended mainly on his left hand until adding a right hand later on but he was past his physical prime then.

One of the most exciting fighters ever and was involved in more Ring Magazine FOTY's than any other fighter I believe.

[Dynamite Kid]

Hyviä otteluita molemmat, mutta samasta syystä en kyllä viitsi oikein katsoa.

Bowella ei ollut muuta enää jäljellä kuin sisua ja Golotalla oli kaikki tarpeelliseet välineet olla maailmanmestari paitsi sisua. Kysyttiin minkä vuoksi löi Bowea vyön alle ja vastas koska se ei olis muuten pysynyt alhaalla... Heh heh.



At first he might come across as a one-dimensional brawler but there was a lot more to his game than that. Of course the main thing about Basilio is that he was one of the toughest fighters to ever live, but he was also great at forcing the opponent to fight his fight and developed some boxing skills over the years. He's not exactly Joe Frazier but a lot like him in that he'll make you fight every second of every round. He depended mainly on his left hand until adding a right hand later on but he was past his physical prime then.

One of the most exciting fighters ever and was involved in more Ring Magazine FOTY's than any other fighter I believe.

Yeah? sounds interesting, cheers i will check him out.

[Leevi_P]

Gołota bit Po'hua on the shoulder before and used headbutts against Nicholson though he was dominating both fights...

Golota is a crazy *****.

Because of bad karma he never won title in professional.

0-3-1 in world title fights.

[Suckmedry]

Rid**** took insane punishment from Golota, but showed signs of badly slipping vs Holyfield the 3rd time, and even before that. IMO he was past his very peak after he lost to Evander the 2nd time, or even after he beat Evander the 1st time...just lost his hunger, well not his hunger for food, but his hunger for success.