Anyone else agree SRR is overrated?

[Barn]

I have Greb ahead of him these days.

[Pastrano]

He may be overrated slightly. He lost to LaMotta and Turpin clearly, but also beat them in the rematches. He lost quite many fights, but also won awfully many. I think Basilio was the one to really prove that he was kinda overhyped. Public was turning him into this invincible machine type of fighter and he certainly wasn't invincible. And Gene Fullmer beat him twice, tho that was in the twilight of SRR's career.

I guess Americans NEED to have a fighter that they can worship and say NOBODY else was like him or even close. Which is nonsense, hogwash. His longevity is the only reason he's considered nr.1 ATG. If Leonard or Floyd lasted as long, they might even surpass him.

[fitefanSHO]

You can tell a thread about Sugar Ray Robinson being "overrated" is not going to go well when the OP can't even be bothered to spell out Robinson's name. Not sure which is a bigger sign of disrespect. I mean, it's bad enough to suggest he was anything but the GREATEST fighter who ever lived, but then to lazily call him SRR. Man, kids these days...

No respect.

[Barn]

Robinson was way past his prime for Basilio and beat him in the rematch as well.

He lost to LaMotta 1 out of 6 times while weight asa WW.

[IIIX JACK XIII]

So you want to know why Sugar Ray was the greatest...


Undefeated Amateur Featherweight Golden Gloves Champion
Undefeated Amateur Lightweight Golden Gloves Champion
Undefeated & Uncrowned Lightweight Champion
Undefeated Welterweight Champion
5 Time World Middleweight Champion
And Nearly the Light Heavyweight Champion


Amateur Career:


Overall, Robinson had an open record of 85-0, winning both the Featherweight and Lightweight Golden Gloves Championships in the process. 65 of the wins came by KO, 40 of which took place in the first round.


Lightweight Career:


You're probably asking yourself, “What Lightweight career?”. Although a brief one, Robinson did in fact have a substantial Lightweight career. He beat the NBA and soon to be World Lightweight Champion (Sammy Angott) after all, whilst maintaining a record of 21-0 with 18 KOs. His additional notable opponents included Pete Lello and Maxie Shapiro.


Welterweight Career:


As a Welterweight, Robinson was undefeated. Going against the likes of Fritzie Zivic, Henry Armstrong, and Kid Gavilan, this was an impressive feat. Counting Robinson's actual amount of Welterweight fights is rather tricky considering he often mixed it up with Middleweights as well. Nonetheless I have calculated that it was about 58 fights. He won them all without draws, and did so with no real controversial victories, the closest to controversy being the first fight with Kid Gavilan. It's also important to note that whilst still being a natural Welterweight, Robinson had beat Jake LaMotta 4 out of 5 times.


Middleweight Career:


Robinson's MW Record before becoming World Champion for the 1st time
*Includes his winning of the title
*Fighters in bold are notable

Wins:
Jake LaMotta (x5)
Vic Dellicurti (x3)
Lou Woods
Jose Basora
Jimmy Mandell
Tony Riccio
Freddie Flores (x2)
Freddie Wilson (x2)
Vinnie Vines
Artie Levine
Georgie Abrams
Eddie Finazzo
Ossie Harris (x2)
Henry Brimm (x2)
Don Lee (x2)
Earl Turner
Cecil Hudson (x2)
Steve Belloise
Charley Dodson
Aaron Wade
Cliff Beckett (x2)
Ray Barnes
Robert Villemain (x2)
Billy Brown
Joe Rindone
Bobo Olson
Jean Stock
Luc van Dam
Hans Stretz

Losses:
Jake LaMotta II

Draws:
Jose Basora
Henry Brimm

That's 43 Middleweight wins with only 1 loss and 2 draws upon winning the World Championship.


Robinson's MW Record from after winning the title for the 1st time to losing it for the last time
*Does not include his first winning of the title
*Does not include his last loss of the title
*Fighters in bold are notable

Wins:
Holley Mims
Don Ellis
Kid Marcel
Jean Wanes
Jan de Bruin
Jean Walzack
Gerhard Hecht (Although declared a NC, for all intensive purposes it's a win)
Cyrille Delannoit
Randy Turpin
Bobo Olson (x3)
Rocky Graziano
Joe Rindone
Johnny Lombardo
Ted Olla
Garth Panter
Rocky Castellani
Bob Provizzi
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio
Bob Young

Losses:
Randy Turpin I
Joey Maxim
Ralph Jones
Gene Fullmer I
Carmen Basilio I


That's 22 Middleweight wins with 5 losses, but 1 was at LHW.

So lets do some math here, 46 + 26 = 72. Robinson essentially had 72 Middleweight fights before you could officially label him as washed up (when he finally lost his MW title for the last time). Of those 72 fights, he won 65, lost 5, and drew twice. One loss came in a fight where he was outweighed by 16 lbs, and three came after he returned from retirement. Randy Turpin's win over Robinson is perhaps the only really meaningful one. Yet when Turpin beat Robinson, Ray had already previously had 132 professional bouts. Everyone who beat Robinson, aside from Tiger Jones (who caught Robinson nearly just out of retirement), was a great fighter. The names on his resume speak for themselves, the man truly was the greatest.


Robinson's Unquantified-but-Detailed Complete Career Resume:

*Info below uses Ring Annual Ratings
*Hall of Famers in bold

Pete Lello (#3 LW – 1940)
Sammy Angott (#1 LW – 1940, LW Champ – 1941, #2 LW – 1943, #8 WW – 1945)
Maxie Shapiro (#8 LW – 1942)
Marty Servo [Undefeated] (WW Champ – 1946)
Fritzie Zivic (WW Champ – 1940, #3 WW – 1941, #8 WW 1942)
Maxie Berger (JWW Champ – 1939, #6 WW – 1940)
Norman Rubio (#10 WW – 1941)
Reuben Shank (#8 MW – 1943)
Tony Motisi (#9 WW – 1942)
Jake LaMotta (#6 MW – 1942, #1 MW – 1943, #2 MW – 1944, #3 MW – 1945, #1 MW – 1946)
(#5 MW – 1947, #3 MW – 1948, MW Champ – 1949 & 1950)
Izzy Janazzo (#2 WW – 1940, #8 WW – 1941 & 1943)
Vic Dellicurti (#10 MW – 1944)
Al Nettlow (couple close fights with Bob Montgomery, beat Maxie Berger)
California Jackie Wilson (#2 WW – 1941, #3 WW – 1942)
Ralph Zannelli (#5 WW – 1943, #4 WW – 1947)
Henry Armstrong (WW Champ – 1938 & 1939, #1 WW – 1940, #2 WW – 1942, #1 WW – 1944)
Sheik Rangel (#10 WW – 1942)
George Martin (beat Ralph Zannelli, Garvey Young, V. Vines, Pedro Montanez, Battling Battalino, Andy Callahan)
Tommy Bell (#1 WW – 1946, #2 WW – 1947)
George Costner (#5 WW – 1947, #2 WW – 1949)
Jimmy McDaniels (#4 WW – 1944)
O'Neill Bell (just beat George Costner, Jackie Wilson, and Fritzie Zivic back to back to back)
Joe Curcio (beat Fritzie Zivic, Cecil Hudson, and Johnny Green)
Vinnie Vines (beat Sam Baroudi and Jackie Alzek)
Ossie Harris (beat Tommy Bell, Reuben Shank, and Fritzie Zivic)
Cecil Hudson (beat Tommy Bell, Fritzie Zivic, Freddie Dixon, Ossie Harris, & Sheik Rangel)
Artie Levine (beat Jimmy Doyle, Marvin Bryant, Vic Dellicurti, Herbie Kronowitz, & Joe Agosta)
Georgie Abrams (#5 MW – 1946)
Jimmy Doyle (#2 WW – 1945, #7 WW – 1946)
Billy Nixon (beat Johnny Green, Buster Tyler, & Johnny Hutchinson)
Chuck Taylor (beat Frankie Abrams, Tony Pellone, and Honeychile Johnson)
Henry Brimm (beat Vic Dellicurti, Holman Williams, Joey DeJohn, Arte Towne, & Tony Elizondo)
Bernard Docusen (#3 WW – 1948 & 1949)
Kid Gavilan (#1 WW – 1948, 1949, 1950, & 1951, WW Champ – 1952 & 1953)
Bobby Lee (beat Livio Minelli, Billy Nixon, Nava Esparza, Dorsey Lay, Honeychile Johnson, Chico Varona, & Gene Burton)
Don Lee (beat Jimmy McDaniels, Vince Foster, Sheik Rangel, Joe Danos, Howard Bleyhl, Billy Tierney)
Earl Turner (beat Sheik Rangel, Fred Apostoli, Cecil Hudson, Cocoa Kid, Don Lee, Jackie Wilson, George Costner, George Duke, etc)
Steve Belloise (#2 MW – 1948, #5 MW – 1949)
Al Mobley (beat Fritzie Zivic, Georgie Benton, Honeychile Johnson, George Martin, Sylvester Perkins, Otis Graham, & Bert Linam)
Aaron Wade (#7 MW – 1945)
Ray Barnes (#7 MW – 1950)
Robert Villemain (#3 MW – 1949, #8 MW – 1950, #9 MW – 1951)
Charley Fusari (#3 WW – 1950, #8 WW – 1951)
Jose Basora (#4 MW – 1943 & 1944)
Joe Rindone (beat Ralph Zannelli, Paul Pender, Bob Murphy, Pierre Langlois, Joe Blackwood, Charley Zivic, & Henry Lee)
Bobo Olson (#3 MW – 1952, MW Champ – 1953 & 1954, #1 MW – 1955)
Bobby Dykes (#2 WW – 1952, #5 MW – 1953)
Jean Stock (beat Randy Turpin, Bobby Dawson, Omar Kouidri, Cyrille Delannoit, Robert Charron, Edouard Tenet)
Luc van Dam (beat Jean Stock, Cyrille Delannoit, Jacques Royer Crecy, Albert Finch, Bep van Klaveren, & Felix Wouters)
Hans Stretz (beat Randy Turpin, Jacques Royer Crecy, Al Mobley, Peter Mueller, Rudi Pepper)
(Carl Schmidt, Heinz Sanger, Alex Buxton, Johnny Sullivan, Franco Festucci)
Holley Mims (#8 MW – 1953, #3 MW – 1954, #6 MW – 1955)
Cyrille Delannoit (#5 MW – 1948)
Randy Turpin (#1 MW – 1951 & 1952, MW Champ – 1951)
Rocky Graziano (#3 MW – 1946, MW Champ – 1947, #10 MW – 1948 & 1951)
Garth Panter (beat Pierre Langlois, Walter Cartier, and Earl Turner)
Rocky Castellani (#1 MW – 1953, #2 MW – 1954, #5 MW – 1955)
Gene Fullmer (#1 MW – 1956, MW Champ – 1957, #2 MW – 1957 & 1958, #1 MW – 1959, 1960, 1961, & 1962)
Carmen Basilio (WW Champ – 1955 & 1956, MW Champ – 1957, #1 MW – 1958)
Denny Moyer (#9 MW – 1961, #6 MW – 1962, JMW Champ – 1963, #9 MW – 1968, #2 MW – 1969)
Ralph Dupas (#2 WW – 1961, #3 WW – 1962, #4 WW – 1963, JMW Champ – 1963)
Yoland Leveque (beat Bennie Briscoe, Jacques Marty, Art Hernandez, & Bo Hogberg)

Wow, if you did something similar for a bunch of great fighters and made it in to a book id definately buy it, i like the straight facts and stats with no fairytale bull****.

[Pastrano]

Robinson was way past his prime for Basilio and beat him in the rematch as well.

He lost to LaMotta 1 out of 6 times while weight asa WW.

Fullmer kicked his butt twice and if SRR didnt have the power, he wouldnt ever have beaten Fullmer, not past prime. He beat him by ko. Same as Turpin. So its a bit unfair to say he was ATG best TECHNICIAN, coz he wasn't. Pep, Leonard, Locche and Benitez were all smarter and had better defense. As were/did Langford, Gans and Wilde.

[Barn]

fullmer kicked his butt twice and if srr didnt have the power, he wouldnt ever have beaten fullmer, not past prime. He beat him by ko. Same as turpin. So its a bit unfair to say he was atg best technician, coz he wasn't. Pep, leonard, locche and benitez were all smarter and had better defense. As were/did langford, gans and wilde.

what ****ing age was he???????????????????

Fullmer was a great fighter and losing to him while in your late thirties shoulnt be critisized, especially if you win once and draw once out of 4.

[hhascup]

I love lists and stats as most of you that know me know, and *****'s list is outstanding. I also have many of those lists as well.

Robinson actually fought a total of 62 bouts that were against fighters that were rated in the top 10 when he fought them, out of his 200 bouts. That's a percentage of 31%. Just to let you know, the all-time best for HOF'ers was Ali's who was over 60%.

He also fought 71 different opponents a total of 108 times, that were rated in the top 10 at one time or another, for a percentage of 54%. Just to let you know, the all-time best for HOF'ers was Ali's who was over 80%.

Here's what I have on Maxie Rosenbloom

Opponent-Time Rated-Months Rated-Highest Rating-Record Against

Jimmy Delaney 2/25-2/27 3 8 - 0-1-0
Jack Delaney 2/25 –1/29 10 1 - 0-1-0 HOF
Young Stribling x2 2/25-2/33 54 1 - 0-2-0 HOF
Jimmy Slattery x7 2/25-2/32 50 1 - 3-4-0 HOF
Leo Lomski x6 2/26-4/31 34 1 - 3-1-2
George Manley x2 4/28-4/33 29 1 - 0-2-0
King Levinsky 11/30-8/36 52 2 - 1-0-0
Jim Braddock x2 2/28-4/38 48 C - 1-0-0 (1 NC) HOF
Cuban Bobby Brown x4 7/28-10/29 12 5 - 4-0-0
Tiger Jack Payne x4 9/28-8/29 9 6 - 3-0-1
Pete Latzo x2 2/25-7/31 28 C - 1-1-0
Lou Scozza x7 8/28-5/34 58 1 - 4-3-0
Charley Belanger x3 5/28-10/31 27 5 - 3-0-0
Fred Lenhart x3 9/29-5/38 41 2 - 1-1-1
Billy Jones x3 8/29-12/34 49 1 -2-1-0
Dave Maier 1/32-8/32 8 1 - 0-1-0
Al Gainer x2 11/30-2/42 98 1 - 1-0-1
Bob Olin 12/30-2/39 47 C - 0-1-0
Joe Knight x2 8/31-5/36 54 1 - 0-1-1
Adolf Heuser 4/32-2/40 40 1 - 1-0-0
Bob Godwin x7 12/31-5/35 36 1 - 3-1-3
Bob Pastor 12/36-2/43 67 1 - 0-0-1
Jimmy Adamick x2 2/38-2/39 8 6 - 1-1-0
Lou Nova 2/38-8/45 50 1 - 1-0-0
John Henry Lewis x5 1/33-1/40 86 C - 3-2-0 HOF
Tony Shucco x2 8/32-2/43 48 1 - 1-1-0
Clyde Chastain x3 4/30-6/34 5 1 - 0-1-2
Mickey Walker x2 2/25-9/34 67 C - 1-1-0 HOF
Johnny Miler x3 1/35-2/35 2 7 - 2-0-1
Leo Kelly x4 3/35-9/37 19 1 - 3-0-1
Tiger Jack Fox x3 6/37-11/44 36 1 - 1-1-1
Tiger Flowers x3 2/25-2/28 4 1 - 1-0-2 HOF
Johnny Wilson x2 2/25-2/25 1 5 - 2-0-0
Jock Malone 2/25-12/29 4 6 - 0-1-0
Dave Shade x2 2/25-2/35 78 1 - 2-0-0 HOF
Roland Todd 2/26-2/26 1 9 - 1-0-0
Phil Kaplan x2 2/26-9/30 18 2 - 2-0-0
Tommy Milligan 2/26-9/28 4 2 - 0-1-0
Jack McVey x2 2/26-4/31 37 3 - 2-0-0
Frankie Schoell x6 2/25-6/29 15 6 - 3-1-2
Ace Hudkins 2/26-2/32 36 1 - 1-0-0
Harry Ebbets 4/28-8/33 42 1 - 1-0-0
Harry Greb 2/25-2/26 2 1 - 0-1-0 HOF
Owen Phelps 10/31-12/32 3 7 - 1-0-0
Art Weigand 2/26-8/28 6 7 - 0-1-0

60-33-19 (1 NC) = 113

Roscoe Toles x1 6/37-5/43 49 4 - 1-0-0
Joe Anderson x4 2/27-12/28 6 4 - 3-0-1
Yale Okun xx2 2/26-6/32 8 2 - 1-0-1
Osk Till x2 2/27-4/29 2 6 - 2-0-0
Lee Ramage x4 5/32-5/37 21 7 - 1-2-1
Leroy Haynes x2 4/36-2/39 11 3 - 2-0-0
Larry Johnson x3 2/30-2/32 16 1 - 3-0-0

that’s well in excess of 100 fights against the best middles, light heavies and heavies. Plenty of Hall of Famers as well.

73–35-22 (1 NC) = 131

He also fought the following boxers that were rated in the Top 10 at one time or another.

Young Johnny Burns – 0-0-1
George Courtney – 1-0-0
Allentown Joe Gans – 1-0-0
Frank Moody – 1-0-0
Young Tony Marullo – 1-0-0
Tiger Thomas – 1-0-0
Harry Dillon – 1-0-0
Leo Williams – 2-0-0
Joe Sekyra – 1-0-0
George Hoffman – 1-0-0
Abie Bain – 1-0-0
Joe Banovic – 2-0-0
**** Daniels – 1-0-0
Gordon Fortenbberry – 2-0-0
Don “Red” Barry – 1-0-0
Natie Brown - 1-0-0
KO Christner - 1-0-0
Rosy Rosales - 2-0-0
Wilson Dunn - 1-0-0
Charley Massera – 1-1-0
Leroy Brown - 1-0-0
Frank Rowsey – 3-0-0
Oscar Rankin - 1-0-0
Ford Smith - 1-0-0
Hank Hankinson – 0-2-0
Alberto Santiago Lovell – 0-1-0
Bob Nestell - 1-0-0
Al Ettore - 1-0-0
Battling Bozo – 1-0-3
Patsy Perroni - 1-0-0

106-39-26 (1 NC) = 172

That is by far the most Top 10 contenders that one boxer ever fought. The next highest is 109. If you go by percentage wise, Ali is on top with over 80% (49 out of 61). These last figures are based on boxers that were rated in the Top 10 at one time or another. Ali was 32-5 against boxers that were rated in the top 10 at the time he fought them.

Maxie also beat Ted Kid Lewis, BUT even though Lewis was a Champion, he was never rated in the Top 10 by Ring because they didn't have ratings until 1925 and Lewis was past his prime by then.

[hhascup]

Here's what I have on Harry Greb, who fought almost all his carer before they had a rating system.

Harry Greb
Young Ahearn 1-0-0
Soldier Bartfield 3-1-1
Jack Blackburn 1-0-0
Lou Bogash 1-0-0
Joe Borrell 2-1-1
Bill Brennan 4-0-0
Martin Burke 1-0-0
George Chip 3-2-0
Jimmy Delaney 3-0-0
Jack Dillon 2-0-0
Bryan Downey 1-0-0
Tiger Flowers 1-2-0
Allentown Joe Gans 1-0-0
Mike Gibbons 1-1-0
Tommy Gibbons 2-2-0
Leo Houck 3-0-0
Battling Levinsky 6-0-0
Tommy Loughran 4-1-1
Tony Marullo 2-0-0
Al McCoy 2-0-0
Eddie McGoorty 1-0-0
Mike McTigue 2-0-0
Willie Meehan 2-0-0
Billy Miske 2-0-1
Frank Moody 1-0-0
Ted Moore 2-0-0
Kid Norfolk 1-1-0
Mike O'Dowd 0-1-0
Owen Phelps 1-0-0
Augie Ratner 2-0-0
Jack Renault 2-0-0
Quintin Romero Rojas 1-0-0
Maxie Rosenbloom 1-0-0
Billy Shade 1-0-0
Jimmy Slattery 1-0-0
Gunboat Smith 2-0-0
Jeff Smith 7-0-0
Roland Todd 1-0-0
Gene Tunney 1-3-1
Mickey Walker 1-0-0
Art Weigand 1-0-0
Charley Weinert 1-0-0
Chuck Wiggins 7-0-2
Johnny Wilson 3-0-0

87-15-7 = 109

Harry Greb best Wins

Gene Tunney (1) – Hall of Famer – World Heavyweight Champion – Beat Dempsey twice
Tommy Loughran (4) – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Jimmy Slattery (1) – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Maxie Rosenbloom (1) – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Jack Dillon (2) – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Battling Levinsky (6) – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Mickey Walker (1) – Hall of Famer – World Welterweight & Middleweight Champion
Billy Miske (2) – Hall of Famer - Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Tommy Gibbons (2) – Hall of Famer – Went 15 rounds with Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Mike Gibbons (1) – Hall of Famer – Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Tiger Flowers (1) – Hall of Famer - World Middleweight Champion
Kid Norfolk (1) – Hall of Famer
Mike McTigue (2) – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Al McCoy (2) – World Middleweight Champion
George Chip (2) – World Middleweight Champion
Johnny Wilson (3) – World Middleweight Champion
Eddie McGoorty (1) – Claimed World Middleweight Champion
Willie Meehan (2) – Beat Dempsey twice
Gunboat Smith (2) – Top Heavyweight
Bill Brennan (4) – Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Augie Ratner – (2) - Defeated four world champions in his career

Jack Blackburn – (1) – Hall of Famer as a trainer
Young Ahearn
Jeff Smith
Soldier Bartfield
Leo Houck
Tommy Robson
Bartley Madden
Tommy Robson
Joe Borrell
Bob Moha
Chuck Wiggins
Jack Renault
Charley Weinert
Billy Shade
Homer Smith
Lou Bogash
Bryan Downey
Jackie Clark
Jimmy Delaney
Jack Red****
Roland Todd
Allentown Joe Gans

[hhascup]

Harry Greb best Wins
Young Ahearn 69-14-12
Al McCoy 69-33-30 – World Middleweight Champion
Jeff Smith 28-13-1
George Chip 62-20-8 – World Middleweight Champion
Jack Dillon 166-14-24 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Battling Levinsky 136-29-26 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Jeff Smith 30-14-1
George Chip 65-23-9 – World Middleweight Champion
Willie Meehan 65-12-33 – Beat Dempsey twice
Augie Ratner 34-3-3
Jack Dillon 168-19-26 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Mike McTigue 44-16-3 – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Al McCoy 70-38-31 – World Middleweight Champion
Soldier Bartfield 96-20-19
Gunboat Smith 75-30-9 – Top Heavyweight
Soldier Bartfield 96-21-19
Soldier Bartfield 97-22-19
Eddie McGoorty 77-13-15 – Claimed World Middleweight Champion
Battling Levinsky 143-32-3 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Billy Miske 43-9-10 – Hall of Famer - Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Leo Houck 109-23-18
Soldier Bartfield 99-24-22
Tommy Robson 41-14-6
Bill Brennan 40-8-5 – Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Battling Levinsky 146-34-30 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Leo Houck 113-24-18
Bill Brennan 40-9-5 – Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Billy Miske 48-11-10 – Hall of Famer - Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Leo Houck 116-26-18
Battling Levinsky 147-35-30 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Willie Meehan 73-16-35 – Beat Dempsey twice
Bartley Madden 20-9-4
Tommy Robson 43-17-6
Joe Borrell 50-25-10
Mike Gibbons 87-3-9 – Hall of Famer
Bill Brennan 40-11-6 – Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Battling Levinsky 148-37-31 – Hall of Famer – World Champion
Bill Brennan 40-12-6 – Fought Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Jeff Smith 41-19-1
Battling Levinsky 151-38-31 – Hall of Famer – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Mike McTigue 51-19-5 – World Light Heavyweight Champion
Tommy Robson 49-20-7
Bob Moha 39-18-9
Tommy Gibbons 49-0-3 – Hall of Famer – Went 15 rounds with Dempsey for Heavyweight Title
Bob Moha 39-19-9
Chuck Wiggins 23-5-3
Gunboat Smith 81-41-14
Bartley Madden 25-14-5
Bob Moha 40-20-9
Jeff Smith 57-21-2
Jeff Smith 57-22-2