Pick a fight we can all watch tonight.

[Sergio Martinez]

Harry Greb vs Gene Tunney III

[Stoppage]

Harry Greb vs Gene Tunney III

The only way we're watching that fight is if we had access to a time machine. I don't think any of Greb's fights were recorded on film.

[L.Ellerbe]

we agree on leonard hagler

[TheGreatA]

John L. Sullivan vs "Gentleman" Jim Corbett

[TheGreatA]

[L.Ellerbe]

GREAT A would you fancy watchin hagler-leonard tonight


we have 3 already up for it

[TheGreatA]

GREAT A would you fancy watchin hagler-leonard tonight


we have 3 already up for it

Sure.

[Smokin'J]

I'm in, PM me how its going down.

[Dynamite Kid]

1 Leonard

Leonard landed a few jabs to the body and two left hooks to the head, he also landed
a right hand, Hagler did not get much done apart from a couple of body shots toward end.

2 leonard

hagler did okay early he scored with a leaping left and he clubbed away to Ray's liver whilst he was tying
him up, but ray made him miss thoughout, dictated the
pace and landed the best punches toward the end of the round, he landed a couple of right hands and a
body shot to go with the other body shot he landed midway through the round.

3 leonard

Tough, tough round to score, Hagler landed a nice inside left hand early on
and he was applying lots of pressure, he had more sucess by reverting back
to lefty, however leonard answered him punch for punch in the exnchages
and towards the end hagler was just marching foward with little effect,
towards the end leonard scored some flashy flurris and landed the best punch
of the round imo, right hand left hook.

4 Leonard

Best round of the fight for Ray, he made hagler miss badly and countered effectively throughout, simple really.

5 Hagler

Hagler round for me , although still a relatively close round because hagler got nailed a few times
with at least 4 right hands and a left hook right hand that landed solidly, Leonard also nailed hagler with
a left hook as he (Leonard) was pulling out, that said Hagler was more consitsnt
and even though his shots early in this round were only short little insignificent shots he closed very well
and was nailing ray pretty good by the end, so yeah hagler for me.


6 Leonard

Close, close round, probably the closest of the fight because both fighters were very competitve, hagler was consistent
as usual and scored with the little jloting shots, be he got nailed with quite a few solid right hands throughout,
leonard closed the round out better with some nice shots, could of gone to hagler to but i felt it was pretty
tight round that leonard took just on the fact he closed it out.

7 Hagler

Easily Hagler's best round of the fight, Leonard again nailed him a few times toward the end but Hagler's
consistency and the fact he was back to nailing ray on the ropes toward the end, he closed it out and was more
consistent throught, his cleanest punches of the fight were landed here imo.

8 Hagler

I like Haglers consistency here, he used the jab very effecitvely, he went to the body once
he closed the distance behind the jab, then brough his punches up to the
head from the body, consistent throughout, although again!!
he was starting to get nailed with clean counters towards the end.

9 Hagler

Leonard started well scoring the better combos but he was starting to get nailed in the middle rounds, he tired towards
the end, Hagler was consistent again, if there was a round where leonards flash might have stole it, it coud of been this
round, he landed some good counters on hagler but Hagler's greater body of work did it for me, Tim Ryan actually
spoke in this round of how he scored it for hagler but that how the emtoion involved in the fight
could of swung it Ray's way, that said i liked Hagler here.

10 Hagler

Tough round to score because hagler was landing those consistent jolting shots throughout whilst ray landed
some lovely combos but he was a little more inconsistent, he still landed the cleanerr shots to me though.
Tim Ryan said this could of easily been score for leonard, but again i went for Hagler.

11 Leonard

He scored the better, cleaner shots throughout, Hagler was consistent but ray landed the
clean effective punches in this round.

12 hagler

I like Hagler here he was more consistent, Ray was throwing flahsy shots and had the crowd eating out his hand,
that said he did not get much done and Hagler's jolting shots throughout took this round imo.



Hagler was hit with clean shots throughout the fight, even in the rounds he won with his consistency. Its fashionable to say Ray tried to steal rounds with flashy shots, its not so much that they were flashy shots, they
were clean!!! shots that you could see landing, Hagler's shots were short jolting shots inside that were harder to see, it was as though he was pushing his punches at times.

A side note, Hagler's uppercut was very effective here, particularly when Ray was trying to hold him round the back of the head, Hagler should of started out left handed, he should of used the jab to get in then gone straight for the body not the head, he would of most likely have won the fight but he let Ray get in his head and tried to prove could Box with him.

When you watch a fight think one guy has won, well here i got the impression that Leonard had won and whilst i scored it as draw if forced i would of leaned toward Leonard due to superior, defence, footwork, cleaner punches,

[L.Ellerbe]

interesting scorecard in that i have it EXACTLY the same as you except i gave ray the 12th and had him 115-113 ahead

hagler threw the first 3 rounds away fighting orthodox...if he came out as usual who knows what would of happened...its 1 of those fights that sparks debate but in the midst of the debate people forget to acknowledge just how amazing SRL done to just go the distance with marvin..hagler wasnt in his prime but he was closer to his than ray was and also at his natural weight

115-113 leonard but only just