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  • #31
    Originally posted by Obama View Post
    *Round 1: 10 – 10 Even
    Not much to choose from this round. No one really deserved to win it. Leonard didn't do much, and Duran was mostly ineffective with what he did.


    Round 2: 9 – 10 Duran
    Big round for Duran, he buckles Leonard early and possibly hurts him once more later in the round. Leonard has his moments near the end, but didn't do enough.


    Round 3: 9 – 10 Duran
    Duran continues to beat Leonard's ass again this round, hurting him in the early going.


    *Round 4: 9 – 10 Duran
    Once again, early in the round Leonard is caught and hurt by Duran's big right hand. That's 3 rounds in a row that he hasn't been able to avoid it, not looking good for Leonard at all. Afterwards the two exchange good body work back and forth, edge Leonard. And at the end of the round, there are some flurries and big shots landed by both fighters. Leonard appeared to get the best of it here as well (barely). So, what started as a big round for Duran, ended up pretty damn close. ...But Duran still won.


    Round 5: 10 – 9 Leonard
    Even round until the end, where Leonard finally put a meaningful combination together that actually made Duran back up a little.


    Round 6: 10 – 9 Leonard
    Leonard tied Duran up pretty well the entire round, and put together some bull**** shoe shining punches along with a couple decent hooks that gave him this round clearly.


    *Round 7: 10 – 9 Leonard
    Leonard continues his tactics from the last round, but Duran is given more freedom to work in this round, most notably the second half. First half of the round was Leonard's, second half even.


    *Round 8: 9 – 10 Duran
    Close round. When Leonard uses his jab, he's in control and winning the round. Problem is, he isn't consistent. And when he stops using it, Duran closes the distance and lands his big bombs. Leonard is usually even with Duran on the inside, up until the end of the round. At the end, Duran clearly got the harder punches in (most notably that sucker right hand).


    Round 9: 9 – 10 Duran
    Leonard took a lot of this round off, and Duran just outworked him. Duran did a very job of slipping underneath of Leonard's punches this round.


    Round 10: 10 – 9 Leonard
    Competitive but clear round for Leonard. He utilized his boxing ability well and managed to not get caught with any huge punches, aside from a couple decent body shots.


    Round 11: 10 – 9 Leonard
    This round was all combinations. Aside from body positioning and head movement, defense was pretty much out the window. Leonard won it because he was busier.


    *Round 12: 10 – 10 Even
    I saw nothing to indicate either fighter really won this round.


    *Round 13: 9 – 10 Duran
    Wow. Not much in the first half of the round aside from a big left hook by Duran, but the second half? Bomb, after bomb, after bomb, after bomb. Leonard took a terrible amount of punishment in the second half of this round despite the back and forth action, YET, Leonard managed to finish stronger and even hurt Duran. But, it wasn't enough to steal the round. I'm actually rather baffled at how Leonard seemed to walk through all the big punches Duran hit him with this round.


    Round 14: 10 – 9 Leonard
    Leonard's determination from the end of the last round continued over into this one. Duran also seemingly took his foot off the gas this round. In response, Leonard put his signature on the round via “his” famous bolo punch.


    Round 15: 10 – 9 Leonard
    Um, Duran apparently thought he was way ahead in this round, because he decided he didn't have to throw any punches. Leonard won the round on activity alone.




    Final Score: 7 – 6 – 2 Leonard (144 – 143)




    Score Variances:
    Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 1: 12 – 3 Leonard
    Scoring all the starred rounds even: 6 – 3 – 6 Leonard
    Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 2: 6 – 9 Duran
    Will have to watch this one again but seen this one a lot and as memory serves Leonard didn't win much before the 10th then finished strongly.
    No way he won 3 of the middle rounds 5,6,7 on the spin IMO, but i'll look at it again.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Obama View Post
      Round 14: 10 – 9 Leonard
      Leonard's determination from the end of the last round continued over into this one. Duran also seemingly took his foot off the gas this round. In response, Leonard put his signature on the round via “his” famous bolo punch.
      Do remember that though, ***** have another look at it!
      Looked good but Leonard was holding and hitting but more importantly it didn't land, it hit Duran on the elbows/forearms.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GJC View Post
        Do remember that though, ***** have another look at it!
        Looked good but Leonard was holding and hitting but more importantly it didn't land, it hit Duran on the elbows/forearms.
        You basing this off memory or did you just look at it again?

        Also, Duran didn't do **** in the round. Doesn't even matter if it landed. It was a signature, not what won him the round.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Obama View Post
          You basing this off memory or did you just look at it again?

          Also, Duran didn't do **** in the round. Doesn't even matter if it landed. It was a signature, not what won him the round.
          I don't argue that Leonard won the round my point is that a lot of work that Leonard did on the inside didn't actually land.

          Duran made him miss a lot it is a tricky fight to score Leonard hit an awful lot of air/hair that night.
          Just looked again, it looks like forearms to me.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GJC View Post
            I don't argue that Leonard won the round my point is that a lot of work that Leonard did on the inside didn't actually land.

            Duran made him miss a lot it is a tricky fight to score Leonard hit an awful lot of air/hair that night.
            Just looked again, it looks like forearms to me.
            I got Leonard winning the fight by 1 point. Clearly he wasn't landing half of his punches. Nonetheless, his connect percentage was better than Duran's.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Obama View Post
              I got Leonard winning the fight by 1 point. Clearly he wasn't landing half of his punches. Nonetheless, his connect percentage was better than Duran's.
              We'll agree to differ my friend, I think Leonard landing half is generous.
              I would say the crux is the 5,6,7th rounds I will watch the fight again but I'd be suprised if Leonard got those 3 rounds.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Obama View Post
                I also scored both Hearns fights for Hearns (even tho the first one ended before it should have) and gave Leonard a 7-5 win over Hagler.
                Its called a knockout! lol

                But i agree with the rest.

                Originally posted by Obama View Post
                *Round 1: 10 – 10 Even
                Not much to choose from this round. No one really deserved to win it. Leonard didn't do much, and Duran was mostly ineffective with what he did.


                Round 2: 9 – 10 Duran
                Big round for Duran, he buckles Leonard early and possibly hurts him once more later in the round. Leonard has his moments near the end, but didn't do enough.


                Round 3: 9 – 10 Duran
                Duran continues to beat Leonard's ass again this round, hurting him in the early going.


                *Round 4: 9 – 10 Duran
                Once again, early in the round Leonard is caught and hurt by Duran's big right hand. That's 3 rounds in a row that he hasn't been able to avoid it, not looking good for Leonard at all. Afterwards the two exchange good body work back and forth, edge Leonard. And at the end of the round, there are some flurries and big shots landed by both fighters. Leonard appeared to get the best of it here as well (barely). So, what started as a big round for Duran, ended up pretty damn close. ...But Duran still won.


                Round 5: 10 – 9 Leonard
                Even round until the end, where Leonard finally put a meaningful combination together that actually made Duran back up a little.


                Round 6: 10 – 9 Leonard
                Leonard tied Duran up pretty well the entire round, and put together some bull**** shoe shining punches along with a couple decent hooks that gave him this round clearly.


                *Round 7: 10 – 9 Leonard
                Leonard continues his tactics from the last round, but Duran is given more freedom to work in this round, most notably the second half. First half of the round was Leonard's, second half even.


                *Round 8: 9 – 10 Duran
                Close round. When Leonard uses his jab, he's in control and winning the round. Problem is, he isn't consistent. And when he stops using it, Duran closes the distance and lands his big bombs. Leonard is usually even with Duran on the inside, up until the end of the round. At the end, Duran clearly got the harder punches in (most notably that sucker right hand).


                Round 9: 9 – 10 Duran
                Leonard took a lot of this round off, and Duran just outworked him. Duran did a very job of slipping underneath of Leonard's punches this round.


                Round 10: 10 – 9 Leonard
                Competitive but clear round for Leonard. He utilized his boxing ability well and managed to not get caught with any huge punches, aside from a couple decent body shots.


                Round 11: 10 – 9 Leonard
                This round was all combinations. Aside from body positioning and head movement, defense was pretty much out the window. Leonard won it because he was busier.


                *Round 12: 10 – 10 Even
                I saw nothing to indicate either fighter really won this round.


                *Round 13: 9 – 10 Duran
                Wow. Not much in the first half of the round aside from a big left hook by Duran, but the second half? Bomb, after bomb, after bomb, after bomb. Leonard took a terrible amount of punishment in the second half of this round despite the back and forth action, YET, Leonard managed to finish stronger and even hurt Duran. But, it wasn't enough to steal the round. I'm actually rather baffled at how Leonard seemed to walk through all the big punches Duran hit him with this round.


                Round 14: 10 – 9 Leonard
                Leonard's determination from the end of the last round continued over into this one. Duran also seemingly took his foot off the gas this round. In response, Leonard put his signature on the round via “his” famous bolo punch.


                Round 15: 10 – 9 Leonard
                Um, Duran apparently thought he was way ahead in this round, because he decided he didn't have to throw any punches. Leonard won the round on activity alone.




                Final Score: 7 – 6 – 2 Leonard (144 – 143)




                Score Variances:
                Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 1: 12 – 3 Leonard
                Scoring all the starred rounds even: 6 – 3 – 6 Leonard
                Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 2: 6 – 9 Duran
                I had the 7th very close, maybe even, Leonard scored cleaner shots, but also held more.

                The 10th was also very close, i dont think Leonard clearly won it and he got tagged by a good right.

                I think ur wrong about the 11th. Its Duran who works throughout the round. Leonard explodes in spurts. (no ****).

                12 i gave Duran by a whisker. I thought he scored more, but nothing big.

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                • #38
                  Don't bother trying to reason with *****. Not only can he not score, he also has weird criterias about giving someone a 10-8 round, even if that guy scored a knockdown!

                  Also I believe he is mildly racist. He also scored the first Collins-Eubank fight for Eubank!

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                  • #39
                    Just watched the Barkley - Duran fight. Il probably watch it again as it was my 1st ever viewing, but i had it 114-113 to Duran.

                    Great fight, and the knockdown in the 11th won it for Duran by my scoring.
                    Some rounds were pretty hard to score, Duran seemed to hurt Barkley more, and was connecting with cleaner punches. But Barkley bossed alot of the rounds with great work to the body. Very close fight.

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                    • #40
                      The KD for Duran clinched it IMO

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