If Cus Damato Lived And Continued To Train Tyson

[StarshipTrooper]

How is my paragraph not coherent? It's me calling you out saying that just because you have different thoughts, AS A BOXING FAN, OR A FAN OF A BOXER, doesn't mean those thoughts are greater or more correct then someone else's thoughts or beliefs. You have no point. It's ok to discuss someone's opinion, but all you do is bash them and act like your opinion is overall the correct one.

'You're own personal biases do not equal fact and if you can't be objective about a subject you shouldn't speak on it. Pure and simple.'

You should follow your own advice, Pure and simple. I have my own opinion, you have yours. Immorally, you bitching about my opinion, in a way, makes you bias. Not everyone thinks like you poet. And thank god to that.

Be Objective about a subject????? WHY ARE YOU ON THESE FORUMS THEN? This is for boxing fans to discuss subjects and state their personal opinion on the matter at hand. Were not all robots who just talk about the facts? Everyone has different thoughts.

Heaven forbid if someone is actually objective about a factual topic! Last time I checked boxing isn't a fantasy world like the WWE where your favorite characters can be whoever you want them to be. Boxing is a real world pastime as opposed to a fictional one and is subject to the same reality that everyone who actually lives in the real world experiences. Reality is, by it's very nature, objective whether YOU perceive it or not. You may live in a fantasy world but I prefer to hold intellgent discussions with people who are grounded in reality.....and laugh at people who are not. For me a discussion about boxing is no different from a discussion on any other academic subject that interests me. I could be discussing plate tectonics with a geology proffesor but if someone chimes in with an opinion that the world is flat I'm going to laugh at the idiot: It may be HIS opinion but it's a ****** one.

Poet

[GJC]

Blimey Poet, you've managed to have a row with Cotto-Rulez, Mr Boxing, Masta and terrio in the same thread! This is good going even by your standards

I'm only making note as I can see this being a trivia question in a few months

[StarshipTrooper]

Blimey Poet, you've managed to have a row with Cotto-Rulez, Mr Boxing, Masta and terrio in the same thread! This is good going even by your standards

I'm only making note as I can see this being a trivia question in a few months

Well Junior (jk, had to do it!), Cotto-Rulez is an antogonist from way back (kind of like Tunney lol), Mr. Boxing is a troll that everyone slaps down, and Masta is *****'s alt account so.....

Poet

[one-Punch]

You act like everyone on these forums aside from me, talk 100 percent about facts. Because I believe Tyson was an all in all, ATG boxer, and Prime Tyson was most defiantly on the list of GOAT boxers, means I am wrong, because you think differently. bias bias bias, you contradict yourself.

If you live by facts, then be my guest. Because I could sit here and contradict all the bull**** that you say, but at the end of the day, your ignorance still shows. Geeze, my last post, you completely beat around the bush about. Now I got you talking about WWE??? Like wtf?

Opinion isn't fantasy. You act like I am sitting here saying Tyson would kill every boxer he ever met if Cus was still around. If Cus was still around, would Tyson of got through Douglas, Holyfield, etc?? Well, who knows?? But if you are going to deny the FACT that there is one hell of a good chance he would have had a more successful career, then sir, you are bias. If you are going to deny the fact that Tyson was one of the best Heavyweights of his time, then you are bias. Because I am sure a lot of people on these forums will agree, Tyson was unique, and if his life wouldn't of went into rubble, his success would have been amazing.

MY PERSONAL OPINION IS MIKE TYSON IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BOXERS OF HIS TIME. Just like I believe Ali, Robinson, were the greatest of their era to.

Ironically I have a geology test in 2 hours...

[GJC]

You act like everyone on these forums aside from me, talk 100 percent about facts. Because I believe Tyson was an all in all, ATG boxer, and Prime Tyson was most defiantly on the list of GOAT boxers, means I am wrong, because you think differently. bias bias bias, you contradict yourself.

If you live by facts, then be my guest. Because I could sit here and contradict all the bull**** that you say, but at the end of the day, your ignorance still shows. Geeze, my last post, you completely beat around the bush about. Now I got you talking about WWE??? Like wtf?

Opinion isn't fantasy. You act like I am sitting here saying Tyson would kill every boxer he ever met if Cus was still around. If Cus was still around, would Tyson of got through Douglas, Holyfield, etc?? Well, who knows?? But if you are going to deny the FACT that there is one hell of a good chance he would have had a more successful career, then sir, you are bias. If you are going to deny the fact that Tyson was one of the best Heavyweights of his time, then you are bias. Because I am sure a lot of people on these forums will agree, Tyson was unique, and if his life wouldn't of went into rubble, his success would have been amazing.

MY PERSONAL OPINION IS MIKE TYSON IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BOXERS OF HIS TIME. Just like I believe Ali, Robinson, were the greatest of their era to.

Ironically I have a geology test in 2 hours...

To be fair I think even Poet has Tyson top 10ish in the heavys which would make him one of the best of his time so within those paramatars you are broadly in agreement?

One tip though, I wouldn't mention geology, he is so going to rip the piss out of that!

[one-Punch]

Meh, not like physical geo interest me that much. I need this degree for aviation.

[StarshipTrooper]

You act like everyone on these forums aside from me, talk 100 percent about facts. Because I believe Tyson was an all in all, ATG boxer, and Prime Tyson was most defiantly on the list of GOAT boxers, means I am wrong, because you think differently. bias bias bias, you contradict yourself.

If you live by facts, then be my guest. Because I could sit here and contradict all the bull**** that you say, but at the end of the day, your ignorance still shows. Geeze, my last post, you completely beat around the bush about. Now I got you talking about WWE??? Like wtf?

Opinion isn't fantasy. You act like I am sitting here saying Tyson would kill every boxer he ever met if Cus was still around. If Cus was still around, would Tyson of got through Douglas, Holyfield, etc?? Well, who knows?? But if you are going to deny the FACT that there is one hell of a good chance he would have had a more successful career, then sir, you are bias. If you are going to deny the fact that Tyson was one of the best Heavyweights of his time, then you are bias. Because I am sure a lot of people on these forums will agree, Tyson was unique, and if his life wouldn't of went into rubble, his success would have been amazing.

MY PERSONAL OPINION IS MIKE TYSON IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BOXERS OF HIS TIME. Just like I believe Ali, Robinson, were the greatest of their era to.

Ironically I have a geology test in 2 hours...

Okay. What this is boiling down to is you have a misunderstanding of what the term "GOAT" means. GOAT and ATG are NOT interchangable terms. There are a number of ATGs in every weightclass and p4p. There is only ONE GOAT in each weight class and only one GOAT p4p. An ATG means an all-time great. GOAT means Greatest Of All Time as in better than ALL other ATGs: the top of the list, #1 all-time. If you say Tyson is an ATG then I agree with you: He was a great fighter. I personally have him ranked #10 on my Heavyweight ATG list. You say now that he "IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BOXERS OF HIS TIME"? THAT statement I wouldn't dispute nor would any reputable boxing historian or reputable Boxing Scene poster for that matter. When I take someone to task over Tyson it's when they try and make him out to be "THE BEST EVER". The only people who do that are fanatical Tyson worshippers for whom it's not enough that Mike was one of the greats, he has to be the UNDISPUTED #1. Now, when you labled him the "GOAT", given the definition of what the "GOAT" is, I think any reasonable reader could infere that you were making Tyson out to be, quite literally, the best Heavyweight ever to lace them up. Had you simply described him as an ATG or ONE of the greats you wouldn't have had any argument from me.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

One tip though, I wouldn't mention geology, he is so going to rip the piss out of that!

Why would I rip the piss out of Geology? It's a fascinating subject!

Poet

[Stoppage]

Damn poet. Just take a pill and a nap for about an hour. I'm sure he doesn't mean Tyson is the ONE GREATEST OF BOXER OF ALL-TIME and, being you, you have to bash everything someone else says (whether it's a spelling mistake or not).

Relax. It's the internet.

[StarshipTrooper]

I'm sure he doesn't mean Tyson is the ONE GREATEST OF BOXER OF ALL-TIME

I believe I established that in my last post.

Poet