If Cus Damato Lived And Continued To Train Tyson

[sonnyboyx2]

OK... Here's the post where YOU claim that Lewis's camp interfered with the world rankings.. Now read it and weep!

Where did Jab or I claim Rahman is a legend? You will find that we DID NOT!

If Douglas came in at 246 to defend the undisputed HW championship of the world, in his VERY FIRST DEFENSE, then you may as well say yourself, that he was a disgrace to the sport as well as the belts around his bloated gut.. No excuses IMO

For you to say that 46 year old Holyfield's 'dancing around the Maypole' routine against Valuev would be enough to beat Tua is also, laughable.. It's well documented that Tua routinely kicked Evander's ass in sparring...

The only thing you got right is that Byrd DID beat Tua..
I'll hold my hands up to that one.. Now it's YOUR turn!

you and Jab claimed BennyST was a Legend.

you also claimed Douglas was prime vs Holyfield which is not correct.. it was well documented why Douglas came in at that weight and i cant be bothered going into it for you so i suggest you check it out for yourself.

Holyfield is a 5 times world champion who has beaten the very best fighters in the sport for the last 20yrs, i would strongly tip him to beat a Fat-Guy who has never ever fought and beat an elite fighter in his whole career, David Tua is in the same league (class) as Tony Galento, Butterbean, Frans Botha, Matt Skelton.

why should i weep? what is it that your asking me to read that will make me weep?

Lewis campaigned to Jose Sulliman to have Hasim Rahman installed at No10 when his rating was No12 in the WBC rankings so that he could make a voluntary defence against his chosen opponent..

As for who is right or wrong.. it must be carved in stone is it, that David Tua has been unjustly denied his rightful position as the heavyweight champion of the world and the former champions, Wlad, Sanders, Ruiz, Byrd & Holyfield are all frauds because Tua could beat them all... is this what you are saying?

please answer `RIGHT or WRONG`

[mickey malone]

you and Jab claimed BennyST was a Legend.

you also claimed Douglas was prime vs Holyfield which is not correct.. it was well documented why Douglas came in at that weight and i cant be bothered going into it for you so i suggest you check it out for yourself.

Holyfield is a 5 times world champion who has beaten the very best fighters in the sport for the last 20yrs, i would strongly tip him to beat a Fat-Guy who has never ever fought and beat an elite fighter in his whole career, David Tua is in the same league (class) as Tony Galento, Butterbean, Frans Botha, Matt Skelton.

why should i weep? what is it that your asking me to read that will make me weep?

Lewis campaigned to Jose Sulliman to have Hasim Rahman installed at No10 when his rating was No12 in the WBC rankings so that he could make a voluntary defence against his chosen opponent..

As for who is right or wrong.. it must be carved in stone is it, that David Tua has been unjustly denied his rightful position as the heavyweight champion of the world and the former champions, Wlad, Sanders, Ruiz, Byrd & Holyfield are all frauds because Tua could beat them all... is this what you are saying?

please answer `RIGHT or WRONG`

WRONG

POET & Jab spoke for Benny.. NOT Mickey Malone.. Please read threads properly..

There are NO reasons or NO excuses for TRYING to defend the 'richest prize in sport' when you CLEARLY have NOT trained..

Are you trying to imply that Douglas was ONE fight below peak? Because that was a prime peaked Douglas who beat Tyson.. The Douglas of b4 would NEVER have recovered from the KD in the 9th!

Holyfield is STILL trying to win his 5th title at HW and has been clogging up the division for years now.. He's had far more than his fair share of opportunities, and is now suffering the early stages of dimensia.. He will definately end up like Ali..

Lewis campaigned to have the ratings altered???!!!!... I've never heard of 'bollocks' like this in all of my 'born puff!' Did he go to Sulliman with a petition or something?
Or was it just a few people similar to yourself, loitering around with sandwich boards, at the WBC offices?

We can't discuss Tua, because he lost to Lewis, so you're beyond help with that one..

When, I say, 'Read it and weep' I was simply refering to the now proven fact, that you obviously had NOT read it properly b4.. I am not Poet, and he is not me..

So it's a NO... You're still WRONG..

[sonnyboyx2]

WRONG

POET & Jab spoke for Benny.. NOT Mickey Malone.. Please read threads properly..

There are NO reasons or NO excuses for TRYING to defend the 'richest prize in sport' when you CLEARLY have NOT trained..

Are you trying to imply that Douglas was ONE fight below peak? Because that was a prime peaked Douglas who beat Tyson.. The Douglas of b4 would NEVER have recovered from the KD in the 9th!

Holyfield is STILL trying to win his 5th title at HW and has been clogging up the division for years now.. He's had far more than his fair share of opportunities, and is now suffering the early stages of dimensia.. He will definately end up like Ali..

Lewis campaigned to have the ratings altered???!!!!... I've never heard of 'bollocks' like this in all of my 'born puff!' Did he go to Sulliman with a petition or something?
Or was it just a few people similar to yourself, loitering around with sandwich boards, at the WBC offices?

We can't discuss Tua, because he lost to Lewis, so you're beyond help with that one..

When, I say, 'Read it and weep' I was simply refering to the now proven fact, that you obviously had NOT read it properly b4.. I am not Poet, and he is not me..

So it's a NO... You're still WRONG..

its obvious that when you are proven to be wrong it hurts you... answer my questions instead of spewing out your playground remarks..

you dont know jack**** about Buster Douglas and his fight with Holyfield and problems with Don King.

Holyfield won 4 world heavyweight titles and was undisputed Cruiserweight champion... what business is it of yours if Holyfield wants to continue his boxing career, have you examined him recently and diagnosed him having dementia?

Lewis campainged to have Rahman installed in the Top 10 yes.

Yes Poet & Jab spoke for BennyST and you told me to come to the original source so i have.

i have never loitered around any place nor have i been to the WBC offices and Lewis did campaign to get Rahman ranked in the Top 10

so i am not wrong you are

[mickey malone]

its obvious that when you are proven to be wrong it hurts you... answer my questions instead of spewing out your playground remarks..

you dont know jack**** about Buster Douglas and his fight with Holyfield and problems with Don King.

Holyfield won 4 world heavyweight titles and was undisputed Cruiserweight champion... what business is it of yours if Holyfield wants to continue his boxing career, have you examined him recently and diagnosed him having dementia?

Lewis campainged to have Rahman installed in the Top 10 yes.

Yes Poet & Jab spoke for BennyST and you told me to come to the original source so i have.

i have never loitered around any place nor have i been to the WBC offices and Lewis did campaign to get Rahman ranked in the Top 10

so i am not wrong you are

No mate, I hold my hands up if I'm wrong, like I did earlier with ref to Tua Byrd, and it didn't hurt at all.. You're just wrong IMO

Playground insults is called a 'sense of humour' where I come from, and to be regarded as insults obviously hurts you, if I'm not mistaken..

What business is it of mine? This is a 'Talk Forum', you twat, not the USBA's
'File a Registered Complaint' department!
I would just suggest you watch recent Holyfield interviews, you should take into account that he can't speak properly anymore and has lost all his money.. Not that it's any of my business of course..

As for Douglas's problems with Don King.. Lets all say, Ahhh shall we?
Everyone had problems with King, big deal! The truth is he turned up 'out of shape', plain and simple..

And NO, the original source of what you responded to was Jab agreeing with MY post on Douglas.. It was only THEN, that I invited you to the original source, which was me, and it's only NOW, that you mention it.. So WRONG again, I'm afraid..

[GJC]

Lewis campaigned to Jose Sulliman to have Hasim Rahman installed at No10 when his rating was No12 in the WBC rankings so that he could make a voluntary defence against his chosen opponent..

Do you have a source for this sonny?
I must say it doesn't seem likely, Rahman beat Sanders before the Lewis fight so I would imagine that would put him in the top 10?
Rahman is a King fighter I believe, Sulaiman works for King in all but name, I know what I think is more likely!

[mickey malone]

Do you have a source for this sonny?
I must say it doesn't seem likely, Rahman beat Sanders before the Lewis fight so I would imagine that would put him in the top 10?
Rahman is a King fighter I believe, Sulaiman works for King in all but name, I know what I think is more likely!

No... He has no evidence of this because there isn't any because it never happened.. He hates Lewis sooooooooo much, and will go to any lengths in order to try and discredit him..
Go on... Do a thread that mentions the name Lennox Lewis, and see what happens.. Quicker than hungry trout in a mill pool, SonnyBoy will take the bait, send his girlfriend home, cancel all plans for the evening, and start telling lies about him..

[GJC]

No... He has no evidence of this because there isn't any because it never happened.. He hates Lewis sooooooooo much, and will go to any lengths in order to try and discredit him..
Go on... Do a thread that mentions the name Lennox Lewis, and see what happens.. Quicker than hungry trout in a mill pool, SonnyBoy will take the bait, send his girlfriend home, cancel all plans for the evening, and start telling lies about him..

He isn't a fan that's for sure lol. It's a shame because I enjoy his non Lewis posts in the main and he is a knowledgable guy

[mickey malone]

He isn't a fan that's for sure lol. It's a shame because I enjoy his non Lewis posts in the main and he is a knowledgable guy

Agreed, but he spoils himself by persistantly behaving like the vindictive ex-girlfriend of Lennox Lewis.. There's plenty of fighters I don't like for all manner of reasons, so I state my case, have the argument, and move on.. Not make umpteen threads condemning 1 man, as well as responding the same nauseous negativity to every post that bears his name! I'm not a massive fan of Lewis, but I do believe in respectful fair play.. Especially to an undisputed boxing champion..

[sonnyboyx2]

No... He has no evidence of this because there isn't any because it never happened.. He hates Lewis sooooooooo much, and will go to any lengths in order to try and discredit him..
Go on... Do a thread that mentions the name Lennox Lewis, and see what happens.. Quicker than hungry trout in a mill pool, SonnyBoy will take the bait, send his girlfriend home, cancel all plans for the evening, and start telling lies about him..

what is it you would like me to do when a Lewis thread comes on the forum... do you want me to change my opinion of him and start claiming he was the greatest and would beat Muhammad Ali?

The huge difference between me and you Micky is that i have seen Lewis fight Live on many occasions where as you have never seen a `live` boxing match in your life.

i have first hand knowledge of how good Lewis is having seen him from ringside fight, Ruddock, McCall (1) Williams, Bruno & Mason all you have ever seen of the guy is a cold-flat-screen in your mothers living room.

i do not `hate Lewis` as you claim, far from it... i am of the same opinion as many many other boxing fans who think Lewis was an oppotunist who never fought any fighters who was at the top of their game... now you claim to be knowledgable so can you name for me all the fighters who Lewis fought who was at the top of their game ....i admire every fighter who laces on a pair of gloves, i hate no fighter, but just because i tell it like it was about Lewis you obviously do not like it, yet i tell it like i seen it about every fighter,and no other fighter in my memory was an oppotunist like Lewis was... Lewis won the WBC title in 1992 (i was there) yet throughout the 90s he faced very mediocre opposition and never fought the big names of that era, Tyson, Bowe, Foreman, Witherspoon, Holyfield, Holmes, Sanders, Hide, Ruiz, Smith, Moorer instead the public had to cough-up PPV money to watch Lewis fight the Phil Jacksons, Lionel Butlers, Michael Grants, Akinwande, Mavrovick, Fortune, Tua, Botha, Morrisons... i was there at Wembley the night McCall destroyed Lewis, i listened to Corrie Sanders talking at ringside to Larry Merchant after beating Garing Lane saying all he wanted was a fight with Lennox Lewis but Lewis wanted no-part of Sanders between 94 and 2000 in fact Lewis wanted no part of any fighter who was at the top of his game.... Yet you "micky malone" have Lewis rated as the No5 greatest heavyweight in history, so why should me who has seen Lewis fight and know all about his career, listen or read anything you have to say about him, because IMO you are a `nuthugger`of Lewis.

no i dont have a source for The Lewis camp campaigning to have Rahman installed as the WBC No10 as i read it in the national press, yet as claimed on the subject Rahman was a Don King fighter and King was courting Lewis in 2001 getting him to vacate the IBF Title so as to avoid the No1 contender Chris Byrd, Byrd was not a king fighter and never fought any King fighters

You have just in a previous post stated that Frank Bruno is a couple of years older than yourself so i take it that you are in your 40s yet from the vast majority of your posts i was of the impression that you was in your late teens as you often spew-out playground remarks like i would send my girlfriend home etc etc yet i dont have a girlfriend i have a wife and grown up children unlike you who i would hasten a guess has no girlfriend or wife or children, if i was to bet i would bet you either live alone or live with your old mummy and are unemployed which is why you spend your entire day on this and other boxing forums trying to ridicule anyone who does not go along with your ridiculous nuthugging.. you need to get a life you sad little turd or better still get a job like real men do...

i await your reply to this post for the laugh of the night

[one-Punch]

Damn, this thread turned into a flame fest. I would of jumped into this thread earlier, but as you can see by looking at my avatar and sig, I may be a little bias.

Prime Tyson = Greatest Fighter Of All Time