Robinson and Murderer's Row ​

[Mr Mitts]

Brawny wrapped up much of the discussion by pointing out that Robby had no chance to duck Burley at MW. Any further discussion would have to look at WW Robinson to decide if he ducked there. Brawny also provided some leads on that.

[SouthpawRight]

Brawny wrapped up much of the discussion by pointing out that Robby had no chance to duck Burley at MW. Any further discussion would have to look at WW Robinson to decide if he ducked there. Brawny also provided some leads on that.

Burley 4 years younger than the circa 30 year old Moore not only gave him boxing lesson but knocked him down 4 times

BUFF

Moore had one of the highest ring iqs of all time but couldn't touch Burley

Ezzard whooped both

BUFF

[QueensburyRules]

Burley 4 years younger than the circa 30 year old Moore not only gave him boxing lesson but knocked him down 4 times

BUFF

Moore had one of the highest ring iqs of all time but couldn't touch Burley

Ezzard whooped both

BUFF

- - Gamb ling rumors were rife before this bout that Moore had this bout won.

In his fight with Ali, Archie admitted he bet on Ali's 4th round prediction.

Unfortunately the only film we have of Burley is an indecisive short vs Oakland Billy Smith...

[SouthpawRight]

- - Gamb ling rumors were rife before this bout that Moore had this bout won.

In his fight with Ali, Archie admitted he bet on Ali's 4th round prediction.

Unfortunately the only film we have of Burley is an indecisive short vs Oakland Billy Smith...

Allowing yourself to get downed 4 times though is excessive

fight ended in decision

Archie would say Burley was his best opponent

[Mr Mitts]

Burley 4 years younger than the circa 30 year old Moore not only gave him boxing lesson but knocked him down 4 times

BUFF

Moore had one of the highest ring iqs of all time but couldn't touch Burley

Ezzard whooped both

BUFF

I don't know what half of your acronyms stand for. What is BUFF?

[crold1]

Robinson wasn't in the same division as most of the Row for any substantial time. Ring still rated some guys like Burley and Williams there for a while after they had already moved to middle so old rankings make it look longer than it was. By the time Ray was fully settled at welter, most were fighting at middle and light heavyweight. Bivins was rated the best at light heavy and heavy for a while during the war. Ray did fight some middles, but he was looking for a title shot at 47. Ducking for what? They didn't have anything he was trying to get. Henry Armstrong ducking Burley, Williams and Kid is a MUCH stronger argument. They were HIS top ten welterweights. And they didn't really get ducked at middle either because none got a title shot (non wartime title) for like 3 years while Zale was in the war.

[SouthpawRight]

What is BUFF?

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Robinson wasn't in the same division as most of the Row for any substantial time. Ring still rated some guys like Burley and Williams there for a while after they had already moved to middle so old rankings make it look longer than it was. By the time Ray was fully settled at welter, most were fighting at middle and light heavyweight. Bivins was rated the best at light heavy and heavy for a while during the war. Ray did fight some middles, but he was looking for a title shot at 47. Ducking for what? They didn't have anything he was trying to get. Henry Armstrong ducking Burley, Williams and Kid is a MUCH stronger argument. They were HIS top ten welterweights. And they didn't really get ducked at middle either because none got a title shot (non wartime title) for like 3 years while Zale was in the war.

Henry is widely considered a top 3 all time too

goes to show even greats with legendary resumes can't fight ALL of them

[Bronson66]

- - Gamb ling rumors were rife before this bout that Moore had this bout won.

In his fight with Ali, Archie admitted he bet on Ali's 4th round prediction.

Unfortunately the only film we have of Burley is an indecisive short vs Oakland Billy Smith...

BS Post Moore admitting to this.

[QueensburyRules]

BS Post Moore admitting to this.

- - Choking on U snails on a boxing forum again, eh?

I'll take Big George's word who was tight with Archie as his trainer.

[Bronson66]

- - Choking on U snails on a boxing forum again, eh?

I'll take Big George's word who was tight with Archie as his trainer.

Well then post George saying it!