Is Canelo An ATG? Great?

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  • Bronson66
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    #11
    Originally posted by NotIron
    Of course, absolutely.

    No question about that.
    Thanks for you imput.

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    • Bronson66
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      #12
      Originally posted by DeeMoney
      As far as eye test, I think he is very good, a deserving future HOFer. Though all time great is tricky because everyone seems to have a different definition for that one, and where they draw the line varries.

      The thing that bothers me with his resume, is though it is filled with big names, every future HOFer he beat, was past their prime- all were 35 or older. And unlike other fighters, who worked their way up to that status, and had an early career of fighting big tough fighters in their prime before getting big names who were old. Canelo has been given big name old fighters since the jump.

      This isnt to say that he isnt a great fighter- just that the resume part can be misleading without context.
      This is a perceptive post.

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      • NotIron
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bronson66

        Thanks for you imput.
        You are most welcome Mr Bronson.

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        • Bronson66
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          #14
          Originally posted by NotIron

          You are most welcome Mr Bronson.
          Dont be kind to me,they will say you are one of my non existent alts! lol

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bronson66

            Dont be kind to me,they will say you are one of my non existent alts! lol
            I am no alt pal, say's so in my username.

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            • Bronson66
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              #16
              Originally posted by NotIron

              I am no alt pal, say's so in my username.
              I believe you but I'm accused of having about a dozen of them,and anyone who agrees with me however mildly,gets accused of being an alter ego of mine!
              I've never had an alt. I've had 2 user names here Ivich and Bronson ,whom I came back as.
              Anyway welcome and good luck!

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              • Hustle
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                #17
                Hes a All time Mexican. But just a legend in the grand scheme.

                He fought 4 hall of famers. With the 5th being bud next month. All of them were 35 or older and 2 of them were washed.

                Mosley 40
                Mayweather 36
                Cotto 36
                Golovkin 35, 36, 40
                Crawford 38


                He did fight prime Lara and Trout when he could have avoided them without criticism.

                He also fought a solid Plant, Jacobs and Kovalev

                Legend for sure

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                • DeeMoney
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Hustle
                  Hes a All time Mexican. But just a legend in the grand scheme.

                  He fought 4 hall of famers. With the 5th being bud next month. All of them were 35 or older and 2 of them were washed.

                  Mosley 40
                  Mayweather 36
                  Cotto 36
                  Golovkin 35, 36, 40
                  Crawford 38


                  He did fight prime Lara and Trout when he could have avoided them without criticism.

                  He also fought a solid Plant, Jacobs and Kovalev

                  Legend for sure
                  Not to hijack the thread, but I always consider Kovalev in the group of old, Hall of Famer. Am I mistaken? Is Kovalev not a future hofer?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DeeMoney

                    Not to hijack the thread, but I always consider Kovalev in the group of old, Hall of Famer. Am I mistaken? Is Kovalev not a future hofer?
                    He has 8 defenses as light heavyweight champion so its possible

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DeeMoney
                      Originally posted by Hustle
                      Hes a All time Mexican. But just a legend in the grand scheme.

                      He fought 4 hall of famers. With the 5th being bud next month. All of them were 35 or older and 2 of them were washed.

                      Mosley 40
                      Mayweather 36
                      Cotto 36
                      Golovkin 35, 36, 40
                      Crawford 38


                      He did fight prime Lara and Trout when he could have avoided them without criticism.

                      He also fought a solid Plant, Jacobs and Kovalev

                      Legend for sure
                      Not to hijack the thread, but I always consider Kovalev in the group of old, Hall of Famer. Am I mistaken? Is Kovalev not a future hofer?
                      Kovalev was also over 35 when Saul beat him

                      when resumes are inspected we quickly see how much strategic matchmaking star fighters get

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