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  • #41
    Originally posted by Wladimir1985 View Post
    Kambosos for me weakest undisputed champion.
    Franchise belt didn't count. Teo was never officially undisputed. Devin had the full / real WBC belt when he fought Kambossos. This information is in the orginal post.

    Teo nor Kambossos were undisputed.

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    • #42
      Guys we are only talking about four belt undisputed champions. So no Zab Judah, Cory Spinks and others.

      Teofimo Lopez & George Kambosos Jr never had the real WBC belt. Devin had the WBC.

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      • #43
        You got to have four belts to be considered undisputed?

        Boy it started with . . .

        1892-1921 One Champion . . .

        1921-1970s Two belts (NYSAC & NBA/WBA) . . .

        1980s Three belts (WBA, WBC, IBF,)

        Then came the WBO in the late 80s.

        So who are the four belts today?

        BTW Are these four belts undisputed, or is there debate on that too?


        P.S. IF four belts is the standard then why wouldn't Loma, Lopez, Kambosos count?

        Is it because the WBC pulled two belts out of their azz for the same weight class? I don't get this undisputed stuff.
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 05-12-2025, 06:23 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

          Oh god. He's in my 25 leg parley. I don't even trust Josh Taylor. I am just hoping since he's fighting at home and they will rig it for him for the decision. I pray to God he doesn't pull a Ryan Garcia. Please Jesus!!! I need this parley !!!
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          • #45
            Im voting for Kambosis and im an aussie. I would have voted Haney....but Haneys best fights were the Kambo fights. The rest of his fights are not worth talking about. At least Taylor "fought" for the titles.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
              You got to have four belts to be considered undisputed?

              Boy it started with . . .

              1892-1921 One Champion . . .

              1921-1970s Two belts (NYSAC & NBA/WBA) . . .

              1980s Three belts (WBA, WBC, IBF,)

              Then came the WBO in the late 80s.

              So who are the four belts today?

              BTW Are these four belts undisputed, or is there debate on that too?


              P.S. IF four belts is the standard then why wouldn't Loma, Lopez, Kambosos count?

              Is it because the WBC pulled two belts out of their azz for the same weight class? I don't get this undisputed stuff.
              this forum is only for the Four belt undisputed champions. Of course there used to be the one belt era and two belt era but we are currently in the Four Belt belt era WBO/IBF/WBC&WBA ( 5 if you want to count the ring belt, no other boxing commission recognizes the IBO).

              4 belts is the current undisputed requirements. This has been the case since the WBO became legitimized.

              Lopez and Kambossos had the WBC franchise belt. Devin had the full WBC belt.

              Anymore questions or concerns?

              Out of these guidelines is Josh Taylor the weakest undisputed champion or not ?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by rockybigblower View Post
                im voting for kambosis and im an aussie. I would have voted haney....but haneys best fights were the kambo fights. The rest of his fights are not worth talking about. At least taylor "fought" for the titles.
                for the last time kambosos was never undisputed. Lol.
                Last edited by MalevolentBite; 05-13-2025, 06:46 AM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
                  Lmaooooooooooo. What's the point of gamb1ing if you don't want to win? I am just competitive.

                  I gamble in moderating and boxing is rigged 80% of the time. It's the easiest sport to bet on.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

                    this forum is only for the Four belt undisputed champions. Of course there used to be the one belt era and two belt era but we are currently in the Four Belt belt era WBO/IBF/WBC&WBA ( 5 if you want to count the ring belt, no other boxing commission recognizes the IBO).

                    4 belts is the current undisputed requirements. This has been the case since the WBO became legitimized.

                    Lopez and Kambossos had the WBC franchise belt. Devin had the full WBC belt.

                    Anymore questions or concerns?

                    Out of these guidelines is Josh Taylor the weakest undisputed champion or not ?
                    Many concerns!

                    One question. What the hell is a franchise belt vs a full belt?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                      Many concerns!

                      One question. What the hell is a franchise belt vs a full belt?
                      In the World Boxing Council (WBC), a franchise champion is an honorary title given to a current WBC World Champion who is also considered an elite boxer. The WBC may designate one franchise champion in each weight category. The franchise champion is essentially a special designation and status, not a transferable title like the regular ( i called it full, sorry to confuse you) WBC world title.

                      Back in the day when alot of the sanctioning bodies had different versions of their belt. We always used to call the real champion the full belt holder. WBA really messed things up.
                      Last edited by MalevolentBite; 05-13-2025, 09:39 AM.

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