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Let's say Mike Tyson does not go to prison. How great would his legacy be?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
    I hate to say this, but I think he dies, if he doesn't go to prison.

    He was on a road for destruction

    If he doesn't die, it's probably a lot worst for him, still, I hate to say because he's my guy.

    The most likely scenario is that drugs & overall craziness probably continues to derail his life & career


    But let's just say it doesn't for the sake of argument & he just sort of maintains the level he's at around 1991

    I do think he had enough to beat an old Foreman, but I think he loses to Holyfield & maybe Mercer, too.

    He catches a pre-Steward Lennox with a shot, just like his sparring partner Oliver McCall did, but loses in the rematch like McCall & later Rahman did.

    Bowe goes on to fight Lennox & they have the epic trilogy that Bowe & Holyfield had throughout the mid-'90s with the winner going on to being the 90's most dominant champion

    Beats Michael Moorer

    He never fights Bowe, because they're homies from Brooklyn.

    He knocks out Morrison & Golota

    By that point, he's around 30 & I just can't see him having the energy to fight the next generation of guys like Tua, Ibeabuchi, & The Klitschkos.

    Let's just say he quits around 32 after a loss to a 2nd loss to Holyfield.

    If he dies, he dies.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      The problem with Tyson right before prison was that he was a lost soul. Too many bad influences and partying. He was self destructive. He still wins a rematch with Douglas by KO. Holyfield beats him at any time in his career. Foreman gets some good licks in but takes a lot of punishment too, Tyson by UD. I always wanted to see Tyson vs Mercer or Bowe.
      I've seen people pick Foreman or Tyson confidently but you're the first one I've seen say it would go to decision.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
        The problem with Tyson right before prison was that he was a lost soul. Too many bad influences and partying. He was self destructive. He still wins a rematch with Douglas by KO. Holyfield beats him at any time in his career. Foreman gets some good licks in but takes a lot of punishment too, Tyson by UD. I always wanted to see Tyson vs Mercer or Bowe.
        - - A psychotropic sleep walking Tyson managed to KO Buster with a 14 count that the shiftless Mex Ref hired by Don King with limited experience managed to disallow and get away with it.

        The question not asked should be what if DKing never existed? He was still in good hands with the last of the 3 HOFers who guided his career, Bill Cayton who secured the Bejing fight with Foreman that got called off after the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

        That was the Biggest, Richest Fight in History with the most International Angle ever. Mike might've still had some problems from his horrific childhood, but he would've still been under top management loving boxing history and would've trained his a$$ off. I sorta pick Foreman in that fight, but it'd be one helluva fight that could go either way.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BKM- View Post

          I've seen people pick Foreman or Tyson confidently but you're the first one I've seen say it would go to decision.
          If Smith and Tucker could take Tyson 12, why not Foreman II?

          Was Tyson more dangerous than Holyfield?

          BTW I call it Foreman by KO in two. Tyson will walk right into the left upper cut like with Douglas, but Big George's follow up right him will keep him down, mouth piece and all.
          Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 04-03-2025, 05:59 PM.
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          • #25
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

            If Smith and Tucker could take Tyson 12, why not Foreman II?

            Was Tyson more dangerous than Holyfield?

            BTW I call it Foreman by KO in two. Tyson will walk right into the left upper cut like with Douglas, but Big George's follow up right him will keep him down, mouth piece and all.
            W O W. In two? The speed and skill of the two in the early 90's were widely apart. Serious question. Did you watch 90's boxing?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

              If Smith and Tucker could take Tyson 12, why not Foreman II?

              Was Tyson more dangerous than Holyfield?

              BTW I call it Foreman by KO in two. Tyson will walk right into the left upper cut like with Douglas, but Big George's follow up right him will keep him down, mouth piece and all.
              Foreman Cooney redux.

              The worst possible syle to have against Foreman is walk in swarmer.

              Speed does not matter, if George lands it's over.

              The goes that Marciano as well and we all know what happened to Joe.

              Down goes Tyson!

              Down goes Tyson!

              Down goes Tyson!
              Last edited by Anomalocaris; 04-04-2025, 12:11 PM.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by Anomalocaris View Post

                Foreman Cooney redux.

                The worst possible syle to have against Foreman is walk in swarmer.

                Speed does not matter, if George lands it over.

                The goes that Marciano as well and we all know what happened to Joe.

                Down goes Tyson!

                Down goes Tyson!

                Down goes Tyson!
                - - Drown U goes U leaded with false analogies, the dummyest logic to have...

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Drown U goes U leaded with false analogies, the dummyest logic to have...
                  'Dummyest'?

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                  • #29
                    It wasn't prision so much a reason as an effect. Mike Tyson got to the top of that hill at age 21 and stopped climbing.

                    He beats Holyfield, I feel certain, and also young 225 pound Lewis If Mike had remained an animal in the gym instead of the party variety animal.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                      If Smith and Tucker could take Tyson 12, why not Foreman II?

                      Was Tyson more dangerous than Holyfield?

                      BTW I call it Foreman by KO in two. Tyson will walk right into the left upper cut like with Douglas, but Big George's follow up right him will keep him down, mouth piece and all.
                      Those two weren't trying to win though. Tucker moved away for 12 after breaking his hand early, and Smith just grappled and muffled Tyson. The latter is actually an argument for Big George who is actually bigger, stronger and a more skilled grappler than Smith. Smith had no issues controlling the physically weak Tyson that way, didn't take one good hit the entire 12 rounds and was unscathed. Tyson the bully landed his best punch after the end of a round when they were staring at eachother because he got so frustrated.

                      Foreman will be landing brutal uppercuts and hooks the entire time he's man handling Tyson, who will put himself in harms way the entire duration of the fight because he only knows how to go forward. He will be off balance at mid range with George sticking his long heavy left jab in his face, and the moment he tries to attack with offense George will grab his shoulders/arms to put him off balance, taking away Tyson's entire momentum. Tyson lands nothing or gets blocked, and takes uppercuts and hooks inside the lion's den. 1.5 rounds max before it's over.

                      The most elderly, fattest version of George destroys the absolute best version of Tyson that ever stepped into the ring 10 out of 10 times. Never been more confident in a fantasy matchup personally.

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