Most Underrated Boxer of All Time?

[Willie Pep 229]

Underrated fighters historically in my opinion;

Reggie Johnson
Jose Luis Ramirez
Emile Griffith
Jose Luis Castillo
Carlos Ortiz

Top my head picks there.

I would replace Emile Griffith with Elder Jofre.

No doubt Griffith was great, but I think he gets his due.

I think Jofre is almost forgotten. Sad.

[IronDanHamza]

I would replace Emile Griffith with Elder Jofre.

No doubt Griffith was great, but I think he gets his due.

I think Jofre is almost forgotten. Sad.

Not sure, I think Griffith is severely underrated. He was the fighter of the 60's if you ask me, he didn't win that award.

I don't rate Jofre as highly as others I'd probaby go the other way with that one, great fighter of course but I think some people tend to overrate him or atleast resume wise they do.

But don't get me wrong he's great, and great to watch aswell. Super talented.

[GhostofDempsey]

Luis Rodriguez
Curtis Cokes
Carlos Ortiz
Beau Jack
Ike Williams
Joey Maxim
Sammy Angott
Harold Johnson
Billy Graham
Yaqui Lopez
Carlos Palomino
Terry Norris

[Rockybigblower]

It's difficult to rate someone highly who only has 3 wins over fighters who were ranked in the Top 5 of the division in their entire career.

Its not that difficult. Calzaghe fought contenders from his own weight class...no dragging up or dragging down...always remained professional....never missed weight...never had a drug or any other kind of scandal outside of the ring as a fighter. Retired as champion at 46-0. Technically undisputed in his weight class. 20 defences of the titles.Moved up to close out his career for 2 money making bouts and won both.

[IronDanHamza]

Its not that difficult. Calzaghe fought contenders from his own weight class...no dragging up or dragging down...always remained professional....never missed weight...never had a drug or any other kind of scandal outside of the ring as a fighter. Retired as champion at 46-0. Technically undisputed in his weight class. 20 defences of the titles.Moved up to close out his career for 2 money making bouts and won both.

Well, kind of is.

In his entire career, out of those "20 defences" you cite, only three vs Top 5 ranked opponents. That's embarrassing.

[Anomalocaris]

Tommy.

In any other era he would be unbeaten.

But casuals think he was a weak chinned bum.

[Engine512]

Junior Jones was probably an under rated fighter though he lost to Morales, and Paul Ingle later in his career.

[Mr Mitts]

Tommy.

In any other era he would be unbeaten.

But casuals think he was a weak chinned bum.

Not. The point is, has been, and ever will be: he did not have a super chin, which sometimes becomes a necessity at the stellar levels of boxing. I would say his chin was average-ish, maybe slightly better. I am going to return him a grade of C+ here from my casual's armchair. He did not have a regular glass chin, it was plexiglass, which is much harder to break. Bulletproof glass he did not have.

It is just a metaphorical exercise to link his chin to materials of specific hardness. But one thing I feel pretty certain about is: chin was the least perfect of his physical gifts for boxing. Or one might make a case for the legs, no? One casual to another.

[Marchegiano]

Tommy Burns isn't even respected or often mentioned in p4p despite him picking up titles at MW, LHW, and HW and having defended his HW title something like 13 or 14 times not counting the exhibition this man put on just so fans could see the champion or his being the first to cross the colorline in the HW division in an era and time when he clearly did not have to.

His resume, record, stats, everything is dope. Why isn't he one of the most beloved champions period, I dunno, but dude doesn't even get a mention. Most kids will tell you Lennox Lewis with all of 0 defenses is the greatest Canadian HW.

[Anomalocaris]

Not. The point is, has been, and ever will be: he did not have a super chin, which sometimes becomes a necessity at the stellar levels of boxing. I would say his chin was average-ish, maybe slightly better. I am going to return him a grade of C+ here from my casual's armchair. He did not have a regular glass chin, it was plexiglass, which is much harder to break. Bulletproof glass he did not have.

It is just a metaphorical exercise to link his chin to materials of specific hardness. But one thing I feel pretty certain about is: chin was the least perfect of his physical gifts for boxing. Or one might make a case for the legs, no? One casual to another.

I would argue that his chin was solid at147/154.

Tommy took many hellacious shots in the Showdown and was only stopped (on his feet) after he became exhausted. That was his only stoppage loss at those weights in 9 years - 77-86.

Later in his career the weight hopping cost him, when he had his legs he was a far better fighter.