Why do the largest HWs in history lose to relatively small HWs?

[them_apples]

That's much character analysis, drawn from mere boxing opinions posted in a forum.

Let me try one.

I think Apple has spent much time learning the art of boxing and in his time of study and training he has learned that technique dominates.

To Apple, it is technique, conditioning, and then size, in that order, he finds nost important.

See, I just made that up from his posts like you did.

My analysis is as probable as yours. Neither of know this kid's motivations.

You are actually **** on the money though ill give you that one

[them_apples]

If I may interject, I had figured Apples out years ago. I found out he is a below average sized male, one who likes boxing and wants to feel strong(nothing wrong with that, in fact it's respectable that he laces them up).

His whole shtick where every small past fighter beats the big modern fighters is directly tied to his own insecurities about his size. In short: the small HW's destroying the giants makes him feel better about himself. It's based on emotion and not really in a sense of being realistic. You agree right Them Apples?

I would love to be a natural middleweight as I could take on any weight class. This is big enough

being a lightweight means I gotta use speed to take down these larger fighters

I just think the world we live in where people think they can “bulk upâ€� and become bigger is comical. Its like michelin man. You are either small or big but you gotta take whats given to you and make the best of it. Sometimes a disadvantage can be turned into an advantage.

For the record though: every small fighter has little man syndrome. Every high achiever who is short has little man syndrome. ***** has it - churchill has it and so did napoleon. But do YOU know why? Little man syndrome doesn’t mean you have low self esteem or are insecure though. This is where you are wrong. These attributes are found in people of ALL sizes

it’s because the world by default writes you off. You could be the best at something - but when you are a small man you HAVE to actually do it. You can’t bluff like a big guy can. If I suddenly injected you with a substance that made you the best sprinter in the world - but your physical appearance was that of an overweight - knock kneed man - would you not be frustrated at 99 percent of people not taking you serious? Would you not put all your efforts into showing those around you why they were wrong - and they would be wrong - every single one of them.

You would be ****** to not pursue what you are capable of - not the other way around. All you are trying to do is insult me I can see this. It’s a waste of time and you gain absolutely nothing from it.

[BKM-]

That's much character analysis, drawn from mere boxing opinions posted in a forum.

Let me try one.

I think Apple has spent much time learning the art of boxing and in his time of study and training he has learned that technique dominates.



See, I just made that up from his posts like you did.

My analysis is as probable as yours. Neither of know this kid's motivations.

He pretty much admitted it in his response above, I suggest you read it. He openly admits that he suffers from Napoleon complex and Little Man Syndrome, but he rejects or doesn't understand the framing that those terms have had for a long time.

I already knew which is why I was confident in my analysis. It's not something I pulled out of my arse this week. He's been at this for a long time, long enough for me to remember that his opinions in the beginning were the opposite. Modernity was superior, skilled big man beats skilled small man etc. Now it's a 180.

Perhaps, and I hate to do this to you Apples, but perhaps you were rational as a kid here at first and then got bitter when you stopped growing after puberty hence the change.

[BKM-]

I would love to be a natural middleweight as I could take on any weight class. This is big enough

being a lightweight means I gotta use speed to take down these larger fighters

I just think the world we live in where people think they can âÂÂbulk upâ and become bigger is comical. Its like michelin man. You are either small or big but you gotta take whats given to you and make the best of it. Sometimes a disadvantage can be turned into an advantage.

For the record though: every small fighter has little man syndrome. Every high achiever who is short has little man syndrome. ***** has it - churchill has it and so did napoleon. But do YOU know why? Little man syndrome doesnâÂÂt mean you have low self esteem or are insecure though. This is where you are wrong. These attributes are found in people of ALL sizes

itâÂÂs because the world by default writes you off. You could be the best at something - but when you are a small man you HAVE to actually do it. You canâÂÂt bluff like a big guy can. If I suddenly injected you with a substance that made you the best sprinter in the world - but your physical appearance was that of an overweight - knock kneed man - would you not be frustrated at 99 percent of people not taking you serious? Would you not put all your efforts into showing those around you why they were wrong - and they would be wrong - every single one of them.

You would be ****** to not pursue what you are capable of - not the other way around. All you are trying to do is insult me I can see this. ItâÂÂs a waste of time and you gain absolutely nothing from it.

I just saw you make a post in the training section where you boast about hurting heavyweights in sparring while being 134lbs? If that is true and you didn't make it up, then that means you are taking your fantasies outside of the online world.

So let me please give you some urgent advice before things go bad for you. These big guys are holding back. They don't want to hurt you, some might even feel that Little Man Syndrome vibe where you are trying to prove something. One of these days, you're gonna meet a guy who won't put up with it and will hurt you very badly. These gyms are not only frequented by good people, occasionally they attract types who want violence. Just take this advice before you get hurt badly.

[them_apples]

I just saw you make a post in the training section where you boast about hurting heavyweights in sparring while being 134lbs? If that is true and you didn't make it up, then that means you are taking your fantasies outside of the online world.

So let me please give you some urgent advice before things go bad for you. These big guys are holding back. They don't want to hurt you, some might even feel that Little Man Syndrome vibe where you are trying to prove something. One of these days, you're gonna meet a guy who won't put up with it and will hurt you very badly. These gyms are not only frequented by good people, occasionally they attract types who want violence. Just take this advice before you get hurt badly.

Ive actually posted the videos before. of sparring

you are so salty and so bitter man. Unbelievable the amount of hatred you spew.

I hope whatever it is you find happiness one day

I actually dont get it with you - you are so fixated on my size. Its been over 10 years. You are so rife with hatred. it can't be healthy. it does nothing to me at all lol. goes right over my head. I wish the best for you and hope we can debate normally one day.

[shawnkemp804]

Lamotta was convicted of aiding the seduction of a minor in his club he was never accused of having *** with one.

Nobody on here has ever praised Lamotta for his well known faults.

Likewise I have never seen a post here which describes AJ as an ATG.

Nor have I seen posters describing black fighters with racial slurs.

The only poster here who incessantly brings race and colour into his every post is YOU.

Either you are a racial bigot ,or a pathetic troll,either way you are a moron ,whose shtick is very reminiscent of Moneytheman who gets banned, returns , gets banned, and returns ,ad nauseum like Ground Hog Day.

Lol Vicky was 14 years old when Jake met her and he admitted to having sex with her when they first met. A white dude defending a white dude. How not shocking.

Lol you don't have to use slurs here but you are thinking them. Everything I type is fact. White guys like you don't watch boxing, you have no clue about boxing. You will just find a white person who has a belt and pretend to like them because they are white. If Fury and Usyk were black none of you here would praise them. This is a fact. This isn't a opinion. Also why are you still typing to me? Go back to pleasuring yourself over Tyson Fury. You message me again and I will just put you on ignore

[shawnkemp804]

The thing with you is some of the things you say are true

but blacks are some of the most racist and deluded fans in 2025. We arenât living in the civil war era anymore.

you are wasting your time beating on a dead horse - most half intelligent people donât think about race constantly. Even if a white person happens to like Usyk because they identify with a white man - itâs never to the extent where itâs totally clouding ones judgment. Usyk has other qualities that people like besides skin. I donât think Usyk is very good by the way - this is where I agree with you. Some of these guys arenât very good. The black fighters today suck just as bad though - donât forget that. A lot of them fight scared you can see the insecurity just dripping off of them. It was like that in the 70s too - this is how Ali got in their heads so easily.

as for Lamotta being a rapist yes he is even worse than Tyson. Lamotta doesnât give a **** at all he said he and his boys would find girls and take turns on them on a typical Saturday night out. He ****d many women before the word **** was even thrown around. That was then and this is now though. Reading his book I would be positive he killed a few people as well but clearly didnât put it in the book.

same goes for Ruben Carter though. He got bailed out by the media because of the political movements of the time and song writers like Bob Dylan singing bull**** to sway the crowd. Carter was an ice cold killer himself its obvious. The evidence in the court of law wasnât enough to convinct him no - but common sense would tell you he did the job. Just read up on the case. Then he grinned and lied the rest of his life to the point he believed it himself and hid out in a place like Toronto till his last days

Lol blacks are the most racist deluded fans? Says the typical racist white pretend boxing fans. When black people were dominating boxing for 50 years where were these guy guys? You weren't saying a damn thing about boxing. White guys get some belts in boxing now when boxing is in the toilet, nobody watches it and blacks don't care and it gets to your hear. Liking a white boxer because he is white it cool with me, But how hilarious ****** white guys get over it is the problem. Tyson Fury beats a 40 year old Wlad and the deluded white boys call him a ATG. Usyk beats Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first and you white guys jump and call him a ATG.

When Mike Tyson first one a belt no black person called him a ATG, when Floyd Mayweather Jr first won a belt no black man called him a ATG. That is the point. Black boxing fans may be biased but they are still smart enough to understand the sport. Kind of like how you never see a black boxing fan saying a 180 pound black boxer could beat a 240 pound white boxer like Wladimir because black males are smart enough to understand weight classes and clearly white pretend boxing fans aren't and that is why you constantly bring up 180 pound Marciano when somebody mentions heavyweights.

[them_apples]

Lol blacks are the most racist deluded fans? Says the typical racist white pretend boxing fans. When black people were dominating boxing for 50 years where were these guy guys? You weren't saying a damn thing about boxing. White guys get some belts in boxing now when boxing is in the toilet, nobody watches it and blacks don't care and it gets to your hear. Liking a white boxer because he is white it cool with me, But how hilarious ****** white guys get over it is the problem. Tyson Fury beats a 40 year old Wlad and the deluded white boys call him a ATG. Usyk beats Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first and you white guys jump and call him a ATG.

When Mike Tyson first one a belt no black person called him a ATG, when Floyd Mayweather Jr first won a belt no black man called him a ATG. That is the point. Black boxing fans may be biased but they are still smart enough to understand the sport. Kind of like how you never see a black boxing fan saying a 180 pound black boxer could beat a 240 pound white boxer like Wladimir because black males are smart enough to understand weight classes and clearly white pretend boxing fans aren't and that is why you constantly bring up 180 pound Marciano when somebody mentions heavyweights.

I totally agree that Fury and Usyk are massively overated. They don't beat anyone good with a pulse.

I don't know if it's all about skin though. I find myself liking many old black fighters. I think it's new fighters you don't like. Newschool fighters, black and white are pathetic. The blacks are just as goofy. this whole era is goofy as hell. There are no killers anymore.

You know Marciano is a good fighter. You posted enough already for me to know you aren't a fool. Marciano would whipe out Wladmir just like Sam Langford a smaller black fighter would cave the skull in of Usyk. the styles these guys use today would not work.

Your racial fixation is clouding your judgement though.

[Anomalocaris]

I totally agree that Fury and Usyk are massively overated. They don't beat anyone good with a pulse.

I don't know if it's all about skin though. I find myself liking many old black fighters. I think it's new fighters you don't like. Newschool fighters, black and white are pathetic. The blacks are just as goofy. this whole era is goofy as hell. There are no killers anymore.

Your opinions are utterly ludicrous.

Prime Fury and today's Usyk are a match for almost every heavy who ever lived. Certainly for a vastly overrated 185 pound relative midget who went life and death with ancient light-heavies.

Jesus wept.

[them_apples]

Your opinions are utterly ludicrous.

Prime Fury and today's Usyk are a match for almost every heavy who ever lived. Certainly for a vastly overrated 185 pound relative midget who went life and death with ancient light-heavies.

Jesus wept.

this is a casual statement man I am telling you.

I never used to think like this. people called me biased. I only started thinking this way when I started boxing myself. Once I started boxing myself - mainly in the beginning with my friend who was a professional. I was able to put in 100's of rounds with him. We studied boxing constantly. it was in this time we both realized that fighters in the past were vastly superior. The things you think matter don't actually matter - there are other variables that you can't see unless you are putting rounds in constantly and are under fire. This is why old trainers talk the way they do. They are right. There is simply more to fist fighting than what meets the eye.

You gotta realize I am 35 years old. not 85. I'm not looking through some lense from the past. Go search up my earliest posts, I sounded JUST like you.

BKM recently bashed me saying if I keep doing what I am doing by hitting up boxing gyms and sparring people, eventually a real violent guy is gonna **** me up bad. What he doesn't know is I have had some pretty rough sparring sessions already. What he also doesn't know is boxing IS NOT FULL OF KILLERS anymore. and this is why I am able to do this. in 1950, if I did this he would be absolutely correct. I would get my ass beat badly and handed to me on a platter because you don't play boxing. Today however, it's just not nearly as dangerous. this is the smart phone era.