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    found a good thread on it, people have counted Marcianos punches.

    Rocky Marciano versus Modern Heavyweights via Punch Count - BoxRec

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    So in all fairness, it seems Marciano ramps up his punch counts as the fight goes on. which makes sense.

    In round 15 against Charles he threw just shy of 100 punches.

    in Round 9 against ****ell he threw 116.

    In 9 rounds against Moore he threw 691 punches.

    so in round 15 he threw nearly 100 punches at Charles. Has this ever been replicated? even in lower weight classes (maybe it has?)

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    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
    found a good thread on it, people have counted Marcianos punches.

    Rocky Marciano versus Modern Heavyweights via Punch Count - BoxRec

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    So in all fairness, it seems Marciano ramps up his punch counts as the fight goes on. which makes sense.

    In round 15 against Charles he threw just shy of 100 punches.

    in Round 9 against ****ell he threw 116.

    In 9 rounds against Moore he threw 691 punches.

    so in round 15 he threw nearly 100 punches at Charles. Has this ever been replicated? even in lower weight classes (maybe it has?)
    You stated earlier that he threw 100/120 punches per round that gives him a minimum of 1,200 punches over 12 rds and a minimum of1,500 punches over 15r ds.

    Given the documented information below, how do you explain your figures?
    • Ibeabuchi landed 332 of 975 punches, and Tua landed 282 of 755 punches.12rds They combined to throw 1,730 punches, which set the CompuBox record for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight. Ibeabuchi also set the individual record for punches thrown by a heavyweight, which was broken three years later by David Bostice.
    Last edited by Bronson66; 12-29-2024, 06:38 AM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

      You stated earlier that he threw 100/120 punches per round that gives him a minimum of 1,200 punches over 12 rds and a minimum of1,500 punches over 15r ds.

      Given the documented information below, how do you explain your figures?
      • Ibeabuchi landed 332 of 975 punches, and Tua landed 282 of 755 punches.12rds They combined to throw 1,730 punches, which set the CompuBox record for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight. Ibeabuchi also set the individual record for punches thrown by a heavyweight, which was broken three years later by David Bostice.
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      This is actually such a ****** bait post man.

      I said I was wrong this is why I am making these posts right now. To get numbers.

      he wasn’t doing over 100 punches every round but the actual findings are quite impressive. He seemed to approach that in the later rounds often enough. Or at least totally outwork everyone else at this weight class. Frazier wasn’t keeping up this pace nor was Holyfield.

      and that compubox recording is the modern record of punching volume. But man they are low quality little slaps I gotta say. Even Ali Frazier is more impressive to me.

      so is 700 punches In 9 rounds
      Last edited by them_apples; 12-29-2024, 10:08 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by them_apples View Post

        This is actually such a ****** bait post man.

        I said I was wrong this is why I am making these posts right now. To get numbers.

        he wasnâÂÂt doing over 100 punches every round but the actual findings are quite impressive. He seemed to approach that in the later rounds often enough. Or at least totally outwork everyone else at this weight class. Frazier wasnâÂÂt keeping up this pace nor was Holyfield.

        and that compubox recording is the modern record of punching volume. But man they are low quality little slaps I gotta say. Even Ali Frazier is more impressive to me.

        so is 700 punches In 9 rounds
        Just stop with the over the top worship,and we can get along fine.

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        • #5
          It seems Marcianp's engine needs some rounds to warm up, if he punches more in the latter half than the first half of a fight. I assume this is also because he has already slowed his opponent down by the second half and has more of a target.

          Against Liston or Tyson, I feel Rock's chances are very, very slim, to almost nothing. They both hit harder are simply stronger men. I would bet the farm they are stronger and both punch harder. In a real fight I would bet the farm against the Rock, one of my favorite fighters. Ali's wins against Liston were not gotten through power. They were gotten through speed and elusiveness, which Rock has neither of. I think his only chances are real late or real early.

          I don't place Rock's punching power any greater than Holyfield's or his chin much better, if at all. Holyfield took plenty of punches probably as hard because they were not delivered by gnomes like Rock's were.

          Great fighter and maybe the best gnomer ever.

          It is between Louis, Marciano and Dempsey for the gnome heavyweights. Tyson kills all three, and he is not alone.
          Last edited by Mr Mitts; 12-29-2024, 07:33 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

            You stated earlier that he threw 100/120 punches per round that gives him a minimum of 1,200 punches over 12 rds and a minimum of1,500 punches over 15r ds.

            Given the documented information below, how do you explain your figures?
            • Ibeabuchi landed 332 of 975 punches, and Tua landed 282 of 755 punches.12rds They combined to throw 1,730 punches, which set the CompuBox record for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight. Ibeabuchi also set the individual record for punches thrown by a heavyweight, which was broken three years later by David Bostice.
            True or not, compubox started in the 80s. No stat before then can possibly be or beat "the compubox record". Anything done post dated wouldn't be a live punch counting system ... I . E. Not compubox.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

              True or not, compubox started in the 80s. No stat before then can possibly be or beat "the compubox record". Anything done post dated wouldn't be a live punch counting system ... I . E. Not compubox.
              Point taken M,but,in the absence of any other verified stats that's all we can go on,especially as most older fights are only edited highlights.
              For example , how many complete fights are there to view of Rocky?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mr Mitts View Post
                It seems Marcianp's engine needs some rounds to warm up, if he punches more in the latter half than the first half of a fight. I assume this is also because he has already slowed his opponent down by the second half and has more of a target.

                Against Liston or Tyson, I feel Rock's chances are very, very slim, to almost nothing. They both hit harder are simply stronger men. I would bet the farm they are stronger and both punch harder. In a real fight I would bet the farm against the Rock, one of my favorite fighters. Ali's wins against Liston were not gotten through power. They were gotten through speed and elusiveness, which Rock has neither of. I think his only chances are real late or real early.

                I don't place Rock's punching power any greater than Holyfield's or his chin much better, if at all. Holyfield took plenty of punches probably as hard because they were not delivered by gnomes like Rock's were.

                Great fighter and maybe the best gnomer ever.

                It is between Louis, Marciano and Dempsey for the gnome heavyweights. Tyson kills all three, and he is not alone.
                I’d take that bet, Marciano hammers Tyson to the Canvas

                we have a few glimpses of Tyson against shorter fighters: and he did a lot of missing and swinging. They were c class heavyweights like Mathis Jr

                we have Tyson fighting inside with a tough guy like Holyfield, he got beat up bad

                we have Tyson in his biggest fights losing every single time, at 27 years of age.

                With Marciano we have an incredibly tough inside fighter, known for his strength, stamina, chin and will power

                Mike Tysons weight was nothing out of the ordinary. 215-216 lbs in his prime.

                Marciano is lighter, this is the only, and I mean only apparent knock against him. He showed he can ice men all weights. The best guys he fought were lighter - but he did knock out some heavy big guys coming up.

                If you don’t agree with me - I at least question why or how you could write Marciano off in a h2h brawl with Tyson. It just seems like Marciano has everything that Tyson hates.

                Marciano is tougher and meaner than Holyfield. He is has almost total immunity to damage. Walcott knocked out plenty of larger men - sat Louis on his pants nicely - sparked Charles ice cold. Marcianos looked like a grizzley bear getting bonked in the head with a dodge ball. Marciano got up with completely solid legs and proceeded to almost kill Walcott.

                even in the event that Tyson hits harder - do you really think Tyson ever showed the capability to stop a man like Marciano in his prime?

                as for Power - it’s all about leverage. I can’t prove it - but from my own personal eye test and understanding of punching - Marciano is probably the hardest hitting heavyweight I have ever watched. Its because of his short arms and strength. Just by virtue of leverage. He doesn’t have long lanky limbs. He has these stubs he can wallop you with.


                muhammad Ali did say Marciano hit very hard - it shook his kin folk back in africa
                I don’t get this forum sometimes
                Last edited by them_apples; 01-01-2025, 01:47 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                  IÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂd take that bet, Marciano hammers Tyson to the Canvas

                  we have a few glimpses of Tyson against shorter fighters: and he did a lot of missing and swinging. They were c class heavyweights like Mathis Jr

                  we have Tyson fighting inside with a tough guy like Holyfield, he got beat up bad

                  we have Tyson in his biggest fights losing every single time, at 27 years of age.

                  With Marciano we have an incredibly tough inside fighter, known for his strength, stamina, chin and will power

                  Mike Tysons weight was nothing out of the ordinary. 215-216 lbs in his prime.

                  Marciano is lighter, this is the only, and I mean only apparent knock against him. He showed he can ice men all weights. The best guys he fought were lighter - but he did knock out some heavy big guys coming up.

                  If you donÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂt agree with me - I at least question why or how you could write Marciano off in a h2h brawl with Tyson. It just seems like Marciano has everything that Tyson hates.

                  Marciano is tougher and meaner than Holyfield. He is has almost total immunity to damage. Walcott knocked out plenty of larger men - sat Louis on his pants nicely - sparked Charles ice cold. Marcianos looked like a grizzley bear getting bonked in the head with a dodge ball. Marciano got up with completely solid legs and proceeded to almost kill Walcott.

                  even in the event that Tyson hits harder - do you really think Tyson ever showed the capability to stop a man like Marciano in his prime?

                  as for Power - itâÂÂs all about leverage. I canâÂÂt prove it - but from my own personal eye test and understanding of punching - Marciano is probably the hardest hitting heavyweight I have ever watched. Its because of his short arms and strength. Just by virtue of leverage. He doesnâÂÂt have long lanky limbs. He has these stubs he can wallop you with.


                  muhammad Ali did say Marciano hit very hard - it shook his kin folk back in africa
                  I donÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂt get this forum sometimes
                  Marciano never showed he could ice a class modernsized heavy who was anywhere near prime.
                  Tyson beats Marciano because he is twice as fast with his hands, takes a better punch , hits harder,has better defence ,and has the advantage of 30lbs+of muscle.
                  How many rounds do
                  ****ell
                  Moore
                  Lastarza

                  Go with primeTyson?

                  Tyson fought and beat punchers like;
                  Brunox2

                  Golota

                  Ruddock x2

                  Stewart

                  Ribalta

                  Smith
                  His chin is proven.

                  Marciano fought very few ****ers,and the best two he fought ,38Walcott and41 Moore dropped him, neither of them could hit like Tyson.
                  Mathis is 6ft tall and a ring rustyTyson was fighting him with a total of 1 rds boxing in 4 1/2years since being in prison, 224lbs Mathis lasted into the 3rd.
                  Want to talk about handling shorter fighters?

                  Marciano needed 8 rounds to get rid of obese ,ex lhvy ****ell
                  ****ell would not go 3 rds with Tyson.What class would you put ****ell in today,E?

                  What you don't get is that today ,a slow 5'10",cut prone ,185lbs man. with a 68in reach would be at a severe disadvantage against today's behemoths,and no amount of debate will ever change that.
                  Last edited by Bronson66; 01-01-2025, 07:28 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Rocky Balboa threw around 900 punches per round. True hero of boxing and a Hall of Famer. Marciano was great, but record and longevity, Balboa is streets ahead, and although in a 1-1 bout, it would be a helluva fight, it's hard to look past Balboa, I think he'd take it, possibly even late stoppage. Nash out - His Majesty

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