Why didnt Dempsey ever fight on the outside?

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  • automaton89
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    #1

    Why didnt Dempsey ever fight on the outside?

    I don't get his style. He intentionally tied himself up and fought on the inside even though that meant he got punched a lot more, and it decreased leverage on his punches.

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    #2
    Originally posted by automaton89
    I don't get his style. He intentionally tied himself up and fought on the inside even though that meant he got punched a lot more, and it decreased leverage on his punches.
    Dempsey was a mid range fighter who bobbed and weaved punches. This didn't take from his power but added to it.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #3
      Originally posted by automaton89
      I don't get his style. He intentionally tied himself up and fought on the inside even though that meant he got punched a lot more, and it decreased leverage on his punches.
      - - Fought Willard from outside to ruin Jess for life.

      A KO artist in a no decision era.

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        #4
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        Dempsey was a mid range fighter who bobbed and weaved punches. This didn't take from his power but added to it.
        Beat me to it. This is like asking why Joe Louis didn't dance like Ali.

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        • Dr. Z
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          #5
          Originally posted by Biledriver

          Beat me to it. This is like asking why Joe Louis didn't dance like Ali.


          It was because he couldn't move like Ali. On Dempsey, why didn't he fight on the outside? He clearly lacked a jab. A weakness of his which is a reason he lost to Meehan and Tunney.​

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dr. Z



            It was because he couldn't move like Ali. On Dempsey, why didn't he fight on the outside? He clearly lacked a jab. A weakness of his which is a reason he lost to Meehan and Tunney.​
            Yeah, the efficiency of movement had nothing to do with it. He just couldn't shuffle. It's a very hard dance move indeed.

            Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.

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            • Dr. Z
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              #7
              Originally posted by Marchegiano

              Yeah, the efficiency of movement had nothing to do with it. He just couldn't shuffle. It's a very hard dance move indeed.

              Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.
              Huh? Dempsey did not have a long left ( reach was just 73" ) and did feature a jab punch for offensive or defensive reasons. I think he was a good mover with his feet, not a very good mover or great mover. However his long term stamina was not great and his movemtmet was not good in the mid rounds or late rounds. The films show us that.
              Last edited by Dr. Z; 12-02-2024, 02:43 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dr. Z

                Huh? Dempsey did not have a long left ( reach was just 73" ) and did feature a jab pucnh for offensive or defensive reasons. I think he was a good mover with his feet, not a very good mover or great mover. However his long term stamina was not great and his movemtmet was not good in the mid rounds or late rounds. The films show us that.
                - - Very little film of Dempsey and what little survives is mostly degraded.

                Jack caved in Jess's right cheek bone in the first round. He boxed well with Tommy Gibbons who was a top boxer/puncher.

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                • Dr. Z
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Very little film of Dempsey and what little survives is mostly degraded.

                  Jack caved in Jess's right cheek bone in the first round. He boxed well with Tommy Gibbons who was a top boxer/puncher.



                  Very little film on Dempsey? There is a good amount of boxing film on Dempsey. And they feature different opponents. And plenty of sparring sessions.​

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                    #10
                    Dempsey had excellent footwork and upper body movement. He wasn't as easy to hit clean as people think. Inactivity while champion hurt his stamina and timing later on.

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