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  • Bundana
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    #1

    No Americans in the latest Ring heavyweight rankings

    So in the 100 year history of The Ring's world rankings, this year marks the first time, where we have seen a HW list of theirs, with not a single US born fighter on it!

    Their most recent (as of Sep. 14) HW Top-11 looks like this:
    Ratings - The Ring (ringtv.com)

    How should we interprit this? Does this mean, that American boxing has gone to ****? Or does it indicate, that because of the much bigger and more international (compared to the olden days) talent pool, the competition is today much stronger? Or does it prove that boxing, as a whole, is in a steep decline? Or maybe something else...?

    What do you guys think?

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    #2
    Originally posted by Bundana
    So in the 100 year history of The Ring's world rankings, this year marks the first time, where we have seen a HW list of theirs, with not a single US born fighter on it!

    Their most recent (as of Sep. 14) HW Top-11 looks like this:
    Ratings - The Ring (ringtv.com)

    How should we interprit this? Does this mean, that American boxing has gone to ****? Or does it indicate, that because of the much bigger and more international (compared to the olden days) talent pool, the competition is today much stronger? Or does it prove that boxing, as a whole, is in a steep decline? Or maybe something else...?

    What do you guys think?

    I think it is just a glitch. I love america and as a brit I am glad about our lads in the top tier the way it is.
    There is a theory as to why the yanks are not all over the rankings. It is because young men prefer to pursue careers in baseball and basketball and football as there are more places and more chance of success. I can understand that as it is only the absolute top tier that earn lots in boxing but in other popular team sports there is much more opportunity to earn well. So many sporty men seek out team sports as a better career option.
    that is understandable as boxing is hard and it is a lonely sport whereas team sports have much more enjoyment for team players. I think that theory is the right one that I have heard from experts in these matters.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      Could be that would-be American heavyweight fighters are mostly venturing into MMA? This would divide the potential talent pool of heavyweights. It doesn't help that over 70% of American adults are overweight or severely obese, which would indicate they are not athletic let alone conditioned to fight.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #4
        Originally posted by Bundana
        So in the 100 year history of The Ring's world rankings, this year marks the first time, where we have seen a HW list of theirs, with not a single US born fighter on it!

        Their most recent (as of Sep. 14) HW Top-11 looks like this:
        Ratings - The Ring (ringtv.com)

        How should we interprit this? Does this mean, that American boxing has gone to ****? Or does it indicate, that because of the much bigger and more international (compared to the olden days) talent pool, the competition is today much stronger? Or does it prove that boxing, as a whole, is in a steep decline? Or maybe something else...?

        What do you guys think?

        - - Too much estrogen in American males.

        Or alternately Americans couldn't handle the competition when the rest of the world got involved.

        More probably both which is the reason many if not most American males need testa boosts to be men.

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          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Could be that would-be American heavyweight fighters are mostly venturing into MMA? This would divide the potential talent pool of heavyweights. It doesn't help that over 70% of American adults are overweight or severely obese, which would indicate they are not athletic let alone conditioned to fight.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OFevGcLHTU joe rogan discusses this obesity and military needing good people to sign up.

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            • Bronson66
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              Good find Matt!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bundana
                So in the 100 year history of The Ring's world rankings, this year marks the first time, where we have seen a HW list of theirs, with not a single US born fighter on it!

                Their most recent (as of Sep. 14) HW Top-11 looks like this:
                Ratings - The Ring (ringtv.com)

                How should we interprit this? Does this mean, that American boxing has gone to ****? Or does it indicate, that because of the much bigger and more international (compared to the olden days) talent pool, the competition is today much stronger? Or does it prove that boxing, as a whole, is in a steep decline? Or maybe something else...?

                What do you guys think?

                I have your answers.
                1. Does this mean, that American boxing has gone to (pot)?

                A: Yes, and no.
                As a sport in the U.S., boxing is thriving. A recent Harris poll shows that Boxing ranks as the 4th biggest sport in the US, behind only Baseball, Football and Basketball, and ahead of Soccer, Tennis, Hockey, Golf, MMA and all of the British sports such as Cricket and Rugby.
                However; Boxing as a career choice struggles in the U.S. in the 21st century as there are more well paying, easily obtained jobs in the U.S. than there are people to fill them. Hence, we have fewer native born fighters than in the past.

                2. A bigger and more international (compared to the olden days) talent pool.

                A: No. Boxing is no more international than it was 20, 50 or 100 years ago. The biggest injection of recent talent comes from the release of ex-Soviet block fighters who were temporarily restrained by oppressive governments from participating between 1922 and 1991.
                Their participation today does add to the roster, so much as fighters from those nations Replace the ones from countries where participation has decreased, such as the United States, Canada, Argentina, Venezuela, Colombia, France, Spain, Italy, South Korea, Algeria, etc, where boxing once co-dominated as a professional sport.

                3. Boxing, as a whole, is in a steep decline.

                A: Not even close. Although there are many delicate types who believe that rough sports such as boxing have no place in a civilized society, and wish it away; boxing thrives across the world; even in places that appear disinterested in soccer (US, China) and have never witnessed a Football or Baseball game.
                Boxing, like all leisure and entertainment, has seen its up and down phases; but rest assured that long after the deeds, stars and rules of game sports are largely forgotten, men will still fight in human, upright position for pay.

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                • Willow The Wisp
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Too much estrogen in American males.

                  Or alternately Americans couldn't handle the competition when the rest of the world got involved.

                  More probably both which is the reason many if not most American males need testa boosts to be men.
                  I never did ask. What country are YOU from?

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #10
                    There's no Americans worth being in the top 10.

                    It is what it is, mang.

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