Did Foreman avoid Holmes?

[Willow The Wisp]

It is no doubt an interesting story that these two never met up.
Foreman being born 01/10/1949 and Holmes 11/03 of the same year, only 11 months separated them, in terms of age.
We all know that Big George was already a legend when he abruptly put what appeared for many years to be a permanent halt on his career, after dropping the 12 round nod to spoiler type Jimmy Young in San Juan in March of 1977, after 8 violent years as a pro.

Meanwhile, early 70s amateur standout Larry Holmes was only emerging as a top 10 contender in that time frame, with wins over fringe ranked Roy "Tiger" Williams, tough Rodney Bobick (brother of Duane), and Tom Prater, in a fight aboard the USS Lexington at the Pensacola, Florida navel base, on an afternoon broadcast by ABC as part of The Ring/Don King's ill-fated US Championship Tournament. This was Holmes' introduction to American households.

Holmes would scoop up the hindmost of the Ali era, plowing through more fringe contenders Ibar Arrington and Young Sanford Houpe, and engaging in blistering slugfests with top contenders Shavers and Norton before easily defeating Ali and Leon Spinks, and slapping a strangle hold on the heavyweight division for the next half a decade.

Defeated in 2 razor thin decisions to Lightheavyweight great Michael Spinks after 21 straight title fight wins, Holmes would retire in 86', a year before George Foreman launched his long and improbable comeback in 87'.
Holmes, of course would be lured back by a literal knock on his door from Don King, cash in hand; for a lucrative but hastily arranged fight with the streaking Mike Tyson.
So up to this point, they literally just missed each other in the 70s and 80's.

Amazingly, both old war horses would remain fixtures in the top 10 for yet another decade! More amazing still, they would never hook up.
They weren't buddies like Frazier and Norton, nor brothers like Vitali and Wladimir; but it just never happened for them.

Duck rumors are seldom anything more than the ramblings of fans in this sport; but if Foreman was indeed reluctant; I would say that desecration is the better part of valor.
I think that Holmes would offer real problems for George; pecking with a superb jab, staying out of range and withstanding the shots that found a home over the distance.
This isn't to say I feel that Holmes was the better fighter. I take Foreman over Frazier every time, for example; but give Holmes very little chance against the perpetual motion of Joe Frazier. I rank George Foreman the No. 5 heavyweight of all time, and Holmes as No. 6. But styles do make fights.

[Dr. Z]

You are such a liar. You posted no names he supposedly used as alts on this forum even after being asked several times. You said his alts were Tony, Tonto and something else, none of which were used here. Yet you, an alt of a banned poster from another site will sit back, cast stones and act all innocent.

You expect me to respond to your questions when you you couldn't answer mine in your ridiculous Monzon thread? Get real Fredo.

WRONG! I posted names he used on this forum, Cowboy. How dare you call me a liar. What proof do you have? That would be zero. You do have a long nose, judging by the photo so...

Nice way to duck out my questions including those specifically asked for you. Going off tangent in you own thread? That would be a yes.

Now excuse me I need to clean my windshield, a bug is smashed on it.

[JAB5239]

WRONG! I posted names he used on this forum, Cowboy. How dare you call me a liar. What proof do you have? That would be zero. You do have a long nose, judging by the photo so...

Nice way to duck out my questions including those specifically asked for you. Going off tangent in you own thread? That would be a yes.

Now excuse me I need to clean my windshield, a bug is smashed on it.

So Tonto, Tony and the other name you mentioned posted on THIS site? Is that what you're saying, alt of Mendoza?

Lmao.....judging how another man looks is fruity enough. Doing while not posting your own picture is just downright cowardly.

Do you have an answer for me in the Monzon thread?

So these weren't your words?

"In another forum he was Mcvey, Tonto62, and Tony. They were others. Way too much for one man. You can guess who they are here."

[Dr. Z]

So Tonto, Tony and the other name you mentioned posted on THIS site? Is that what you're saying, alt of Mendoza?

Lmao.....judging how another man looks is fruity enough. Doing while not posting your own picture is just downright cowardly.

Do you have an answer for me in the Monzon thread?

Why is you nose so long? Is it from Ly^n@?

I mentioned other names he used in this forum. Can you read? You are Incapable and look a bit like Bronson. Charles that is. Those are two names he used by the way.

Now where is you proof? Heck you don't even have an allegation.

NEXT!

[JAB5239]

Why is you nose so long? Is it from Ly^n@?

I mentioned other names he used in this forum. Can you read? You are Incapable and look a bit like Bronson. Charles that is. Those are two names he used by the way.

Now where is you proof? Heck you don't even have an allegation.

NEXT!

Bull. You never mentioned either of those names before just a couple of weeks ago. Do you want to make a bet I can find out exactly when? You're a troll and **** stirrer. You can't debate for crap and you lie. Now if you're not here to talk about if Foreman avoided Holmes kindly get out.

[QueensburyRules]

Defeated in 2 razor thin decisions to Lightheavyweight great Michael Spinks after 21 straight title fight wins, Holmes would retire in 86', a year before George Foreman launched his long and improbable comeback in 87'.
Holmes, of course would be lured back by a literal knock on his door from Don King, cash in hand; for a lucrative but hastily arranged fight with the streaking Mike Tyson.
So up to this point, they literally just missed each other in the 70s and 80's.

Amazingly, both old war horses would remain fixtures in the top 10 for yet another decade! More amazing still, they would never hook up.
They weren't buddies like Frazier and Norton, nor brothers like Vitali and Wladimir; but it just never happened for them.

Duck rumors are seldom anything more than the ramblings of fans in this sport; but if Foreman was indeed reluctant; I would say that desecration is the better part of valor.
I think that Holmes would offer real problems for George; pecking with a superb jab, staying out of range and withstanding the shots that found a home over the distance.
This isn't to say I feel that Holmes was the better fighter. I take Foreman over Frazier every time, for example; but give Holmes very little chance against the perpetual motion of Joe Frazier. I rank George Foreman the No. 5 heavyweight of all time, and Holmes as No. 6. But styles do make fights.

- - Now there you go again Wispy, lisping when U should be grabbing for extra Vowels and Wipes.

Tubby Lar had been in training for Tyson for an entire year at his own private gym next to his home built expressly for that purpose, all while while appearing at every Tyson title bout saying Tyson had been ducking him.

Tubby Lar only appears once in the years George is first appearing in ring rankings starting in 1990.
The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: Heavyweight--1990s - BoxRec

We ol'timers been through this made up conundrum conundumb many times, and it always plays out the same, ie Tubby Lar couldn't heft Rocky's jockstrap, and most certainly not Big George's supersized jockstrap...yer welcome...

[JAB5239]

- - Now there you go again Wispy, lisping when U should be grabbing for extra Vowels and Wipes.

Tubby Lar had been in training for Tyson for an entire year at his own private gym next to his home built expressly for that purpose, all while while appearing at every Tyson title bout saying Tyson had been ducking him.

Tubby Lar only appears once in the years George is first appearing in ring rankings starting in 1990.
The Ring ****zine's Annual Ratings: Heavyweight--1990s - BoxRec

We ol'timers been through this made up conundrum conundumb many times, and it always plays out the same, ie Tubby Lar couldn't heft Rocky's jockstrap, and most certainly not Big George's supersized jockstrap...yer welcome...

Proof of Holmes trading for Tyson an "entire year" before they actually signed to fight?

"What I remember was [promoter] Don King knocking at my door around 9 at night,” Holmes said. “I was retired two years. Don said he wanted me to fight somebody he said he knew I could beat. I asked him who and he said, ‘Mike Tyson.’ I said, ‘I can't beat Mike Tyson.’ Don said, ‘What if I give you 3½ million dollars?’ And I said, ‘Where's Mike at?' -Larry Holmes

[QueensburyRules]

Proof of Holmes trading for Tyson an "entire year" before they actually signed to fight?

"What I remember was [promoter] Don King knocking at my door around 9 at night,” Holmes said. “I was retired two years. Don said he wanted me to fight somebody he said he knew I could beat. I asked him who and he said, ‘Mike Tyson.’ I said, ‘I can't beat Mike Tyson.’ Don said, ‘What if I give you 3½ million dollars?’ And I said, ‘Where's Mike at?' -Larry Holmes

- - Watch Tyson Title fights and see Tubby Lar appear begging for a beating.

Oh, wait, U was in BarneyBoys then, right?

[JAB5239]

- - Watch Tyson Title fights and see Tubby Lar appear begging for a beating.

Oh, wait, U was in BarneyBoys then, right?

You can't change the fact he was retired 2 years, and you can't show proof he was trying for a year to fight Tyson. End of story.

[Dr. Z]

JAB5239

Bull. You never mentioned either of those names before just a couple of weeks ago. Do you want to make a bet I can find out exactly when? You're a troll and **** stirrer. You can't debate for crap and you lie. Now if you're not here to talk about if Foreman avoided Holmes kindly get out.

I mentioned the poster Incapable here a few days ago as his alt. Do you want to bet? Here comes that part where you go silent. Stop omitting the facts and truth, it is rather small of you, Cowboy. I can find that post for you if you need some help. I see you're moving the goal posts again to " a few days ". You asked me to post his suspected alts, and I did that TWICE. Just zip it, and quit while you're behind.

You know it was him, and don't please stop with your tears here. That man re-registered under the name of a British criminal. You might be smart enough to figure it out.


I think Holmes TKO's Foreman whenever he gasses in rounds 9-15. Go ahead now and keep it up with your baseless actuations. You are surrounded by enemies. Gee, I wonder why.


PS: Your nose is growing from the lies. It raher long. Is that a current picture? You look a tad over weight and short. And gray , and ...