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[Willie Pep 229]

In regards to Wald being doped. There seems no science to actually back it.

But as a long time fight fan I have never watched a fighter 'gas out' as quickly as Wald did. It happened all too suddenly.

That collapse, at least to me, was an unique event that made me raise an eyebrow.

[juggernaut666]

He knew who Sanders was. In this day and age there is video of everything. And if that was the reason he lost than why no rematch? Same reason Vits didn't rematch Byrd....it was a bad styles matchup for him.

I didn’t even know who Sanders was so I’m positive no one on here knew he was including you back in the day ? Klitchko wasn’t paying attention and when someone doesn’t train for a southpaw he’s fighting that’s all I need to know .

In this day and age ? Come on you know social media barely existed back then ……lol

Sanders didn’t want the rematch he wanted Vitali and he got it .

[JAB5239]

I didn’t even know who Sanders was so I’m positive no one on here knew he was including you back in the day ? Klitchko wasn’t paying attention and when someone doesn’t train for a southpaw he’s fighting that’s all I need to know .

In this day and age ? Come on you know social media barely existed back then ……lol

Sanders didn’t want the rematch he wanted Vitali and he got it .

Social media and boxing forums and websites including this one, ESB, *********, Boxrec and the AOL forums and others all existed back then. And you're wrong......Sanders openly wondered why Wlad never sought a rematch. Please provide a single shred of evidence Sanders didn't want a rematch. As With Vits not rematching Byrd, it's not the winners obligation to seek out a rematch.

[juggernaut666]

Social media and boxing forums and websites including this one, ESB, *********, Boxrec and the AOL forums and others all existed back then. And you're wrong......Sanders openly wondered why Wlad never sought a rematch. Please provide a single shred of evidence Sanders didn't want a rematch. As With Vits not rematching Byrd, it's not the winners obligation to seek out a rematch.

My Space was introduced in 2003 a year after that fight . No , information was very limited back then you might fool ppl on here but you won’t do that with me bc I was around that time . Lol

Im not wrong , Wlad asked for the rematch ,Sanders wanted to fight Vitali instead to try and seal the deal ,you can’t out voice me here sorry pal , I respect you as a poster and I’ll just keep giving you facts but is what it is ,the Klitschko hate is real with you let it go don’t you have anyone better to do with the years you spent on them ? Honestly what’s the angle ,I don’t get it ? Lol

[JAB5239]

My Space was introduced in 2003 a year after that fight . No , information was very limited back then you might fool ppl on here but you won’t do that with me bc I was around that time . Lol

Im not wrong , Wlad asked for the rematch ,Sanders wanted to fight Vitali instead to try and seal the deal ,you can’t out voice me here sorry pal , I respect you as a poster and I’ll just keep giving you facts but is what it is ,the Klitschko hate is real with you let it go don’t you have anyone better to do with the years you spent on them ? Honestly what’s the angle ,I don’t get it ? Lol

I'm not trying to "out voice" you, I'm asking for proof. Do you have any? And the fact is those websites were readily available. I know because I have been on forums since AOL in 1996. To top it off, Sanders had fought on HBO. Was that not available either?

Oh, and the fight was in March 2003. What does ******* have to do with anything?

[JAB5239]

BOXING NEWS 24 MENU FAN FORUM TICKETS RESULTS SCHEDULE Corrie Sanders Doesn’t Know Why Wladimir Klitschko Never Sought A Rematch By Boxing News - 06/17/2010 - Comments By Jim Dower: Former WBO heavyweight champion Corrie Sanders (42-4, 31 KO’s) wishes that Wladimir Klitschko had sought to avenge his 2nd round knockout loss to him, and Sanders, now 44, doesn’t understand why Klitschko never tried to avenge his knockout loss to him. In an article at Sportbox.ru, Sanders says “Yes, it would be nice to fight him [Wladimir] again. I do not know why he never wanted a rematch.” Sanders latter on went up against Wladimir’s big brother Vitali Klitschko, who after a shaky start in which he was staggered and almost dropped, came back to batter Sanders to a pulp and stop him in the 8th round in April 2004. Sanders points out that Vitali’s size was too much, saying “But he [Vitali] is so big that it was difficult to beat him.” Sanders thinks that Wladimir is vulnerable still, and doesn’t know if Wladimir would be still standing if he gets hit solid. However, Sanders thinks that Wladimir’s opponents have to be “bold and assertive” for them to beat him. He says that’s how Wladimir can make mistakes. Sanders “In our battle, Wladimir underestimated me, but afterwards he made adjustments.” Sanders, a 6’4” southpaw, with lightning fast hands and huge power, was a very dangerous heavyweight in the 90s and the early 2000s. He never was able to make it past a certain level until late in his career when he shocked Wladimir by stopping him in the 2nd round. At the time, Sanders was 37-years-old, and Wladimir may have been thinking he was an older fighter and thus no longer dangerous. You could see in the way that Wladimir fought him by going out and trying to slug with Sanders, that he didn’t really understand how much of a threat Sanders was until it was far too late. Wladimir ended up getting nailed with a number of big left hands from Sanders and knocked down twice near the end of the 1st round. In the 2nd, Sanders put Klitschko away after knocking him down for a third time. It seemed like Sanders really had Klitschko’s number and even if there had been a rematch, many people believe Sanders would have easily knocked Wladimir out again. But to his credit, Wladimir soon after got a new trainer, Emanuel Steward, and after one more loss to Lamon Brewster, Wladimir has been unbeaten for the past six years, winning his last 12 fights. For his part, Sanders was beaten in his next fight after the Wladimir win, losing to Vitali Klitschko by knockout. Sanders then beat three 2nd tier fighters before getting stopped in the 1st round two years ago by fellow South African Osborne Machimana. At 44, it’s hard to imagine Sanders being able to get into good enough shape to fight Wladimir.

Source: Corrie Sanders Doesn’t Know Why Wladimir Klitschko Never Sought A Rematch - Boxing News 24 (https://www.************.com/2010/06...match/)

[juggernaut666]

BOXING NEWS 24 MENU FAN FORUM TICKETS RESULTS SCHEDULE Corrie Sanders Doesn’t Know Why Wladimir Klitschko Never Sought A Rematch By Boxing News - 06/17/2010 - Comments By Jim Dower: Former WBO heavyweight champion Corrie Sanders (42-4, 31 KO’s) wishes that Wladimir Klitschko had sought to avenge his 2nd round knockout loss to him, and Sanders, now 44, doesn’t understand why Klitschko never tried to avenge his knockout loss to him. In an article at Sportbox.ru, Sanders says “Yes, it would be nice to fight him [Wladimir] again. I do not know why he never wanted a rematch.” Sanders latter on went up against Wladimir’s big brother Vitali Klitschko, who after a shaky start in which he was staggered and almost dropped, came back to batter Sanders to a pulp and stop him in the 8th round in April 2004. Sanders points out that Vitali’s size was too much, saying “But he [Vitali] is so big that it was difficult to beat him.” Sanders thinks that Wladimir is vulnerable still, and doesn’t know if Wladimir would be still standing if he gets hit solid. However, Sanders thinks that Wladimir’s opponents have to be “bold and assertive” for them to beat him. He says that’s how Wladimir can make mistakes. Sanders “In our battle, Wladimir underestimated me, but afterwards he made adjustments.” Sanders, a 6’4” southpaw, with lightning fast hands and huge power, was a very dangerous heavyweight in the 90s and the early 2000s. He never was able to make it past a certain level until late in his career when he shocked Wladimir by stopping him in the 2nd round. At the time, Sanders was 37-years-old, and Wladimir may have been thinking he was an older fighter and thus no longer dangerous. You could see in the way that Wladimir fought him by going out and trying to slug with Sanders, that he didn’t really understand how much of a threat Sanders was until it was far too late. Wladimir ended up getting nailed with a number of big left hands from Sanders and knocked down twice near the end of the 1st round. In the 2nd, Sanders put Klitschko away after knocking him down for a third time. It seemed like Sanders really had Klitschko’s number and even if there had been a rematch, many people believe Sanders would have easily knocked Wladimir out again. But to his credit, Wladimir soon after got a new trainer, Emanuel Steward, and after one more loss to Lamon Brewster, Wladimir has been unbeaten for the past six years, winning his last 12 fights. For his part, Sanders was beaten in his next fight after the Wladimir win, losing to Vitali Klitschko by knockout. Sanders then beat three 2nd tier fighters before getting stopped in the 1st round two years ago by fellow South African Osborne Machimana. At 44, it’s hard to imagine Sanders being able to get into good enough shape to fight Wladimir.

Source: Corrie Sanders Doesn’t Know Why Wladimir Klitschko Never Sought A Rematch - Boxing News 24 (https://www.************.com/2010/06...match/)

This was all dispelled .

Now 38, Sanders is looking to win the WBC Heavyweight title as well as defeating Wladimir Kitschko again before ending his career. He stated while training 25 miles north of Johannesburg that if, “If I lose (to Vitali), I’m retiring … if I win I’ll have one more fight.” That

Source: Klitschko Vs Sanders II: Another Payback • East Side Boxing • News Archives (https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/100912)

He wanted Wlad only if he defeated Vitali..

Again I Wasn’t born yesterday,I’m going to continue to drill you on here . Your best bet is to say have a good one wait until I dint see you post another Klitchko thread , seriously I’m going to ask you to seek help posting all that man get a grip . Lol

[JAB5239]

This was all dispelled .

Now 38, Sanders is looking to win the WBC Heavyweight title as well as defeating Wladimir Kitschko again before ending his career. He stated while training 25 miles north of Johannesburg that if, “If I lose (to Vitali), I’m retiring … if I win I’ll have one more fight.” That

Source: Klitschko Vs Sanders II: Another Payback • East Side Boxing • News Archives (https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/100912)

He wanted Wlad only if he defeated Vitali..

Again I Wasn’t born yesterday,I’m going to continue to drill you on here . Your best bet is to say have a good one wait until I dint see you post another Klitchko thread , seriously I’m going to ask you to seek help posting all that man get a grip . Lol

You're going to keep drilling me? With links that can't be found? Lmao....what a brilliant tactic. And you must have been born yesterday if you think Sanders wasn't know before Klitschko. His fight on HBO against Rahman was talked about because they were both up and comers in the division knocking people out. And whether he wanted Wlad again if he beat Vits is irrelevant since he didn't beat Vits. But Wlad never came looking for a rematch, did he?

Do these facts offend you?

[juggernaut666]

You're going to keep drilling me? With links that can't be found? Lmao....what a brilliant tactic. And you must have been born yesterday if you think Sanders wasn't know before Klitschko. His fight on HBO against Rahman was talked about because they were both up and comers in the division knocking people out.

Do these facts offend you?

I gave you a link and direct quotes ,the fact is Sanders changed his story after his loss to Vitali.

The link I provided shows he doesn’t want Wlad he wants Vitali in the time period they fought .

Yes I will continue to drill you ,why not ? Are you actually going to argue the link all can see on here if so you’ve really got problems with Klitschko guys did they shag your girl ? Give it a rest . Lol

[JAB5239]

I gave you a link and direct quotes ,the fact is Sanders changed his story after his loss to Vitali.

The link I provided shows he doesn’t want Wlad he wants Vitali in the time period they fought .

Yes I will continue to drill you ,why not ? Are you actually going to argue the link all can see on here if so you’ve really got problems with Klitschko guys did they shag your girl ? Give it a rest . Lol

You haven't done squat. The fact is unchangeable that Wlad never sought a rematch. Now if you go back and read very carefully, this is what I said from the beginning. Now I am typing as slow as I can hoping you will understand that this is indeed a fact.

Lol, you like to talk a lot of ****, don't you? Is it upsetting you that much that Wlad never looked to fight Sanders again? Get over it. He had a great career. I just don't let worms like you overrated the K's and try to hide behind excuses.