Lennox Lewis vs George Foreman FULL FIGHT WRITE UP

[The Defecator]

I favour Lewis very strongly here. George had issues with Lyle, Ali and young whilst he hammered Frazier and Norton. More stand up boxer types gave him trouble. That’s exactly what Lewis is but bigger too. Lewis pts or late stoppage for me.

ps very close between them in terms of records and greatness.

Lewis fights nothing like slick Jimmy Young or rope-a-dope Ali, or Lyle for that matter. That straight up and down Euro-Amateur style that Lewis (and the Klits) used gets murdered by Foreman.

[The Defecator]

Heart goes to Lewis? How so? Foreman was never shy of heart and Lewis once he got hit would retire from fights.

I also wouldn�¢����t say lennox has a 25 lb weight advantage either, it�¢����s a bit misleading because of where you are deciding their respective primes. When they both stand beside eachother in the ring (like the klitschko fight, and foreman is also old and stooped) I can�¢����t find myself ever seeing Lewis as a bigger man than Foreman, who just looks so much more solid and robust.

lewis was 219 lbs or so in the AMs. He�¢����s tall and muscular but on the slightly lanky side.

foreman is 219-220 in the ams as well (olympic) however he is built a lot more like a rhino than Lewis, being slightly shorter and more compact, as well as just having a different build.

now lewis, he decides to bulk up with weights. I believe Lewis was only as good as his ability would allow. His bulking routine didn�¢����t help him with anything. If Lewis is 245 in a bulk than why don�¢����t we use Foremans respective weight with a bit of bulk as well, since we saw him come in over 270+ lbs in his comeback.

anyhow my point is, Lennox prime weight is likely a lot closer to 225-229. His early days would reflect this. And in Foremans early days this is around the weight he would come in as well.

a big stuffed turkey at 245 when lennox was campaigning would be easy work for a 220 lb George, who would dominate him in all categories, so I personally agree with your outcome of a 5th round ko.

Foreman is better in too many categories. I�¢����m not even sure Lewis has better stamina, he just conserves his energy more. Foremans chin, strength, jab and speed in his prime years are all too much for Lewis. Lewis wouldn�¢����t out jab Foreman.

another disagreement is the description of Foreman and Lewis swinging away in a brawl like a lyle fight. I don�t think this would ever happen. Lewis won�t trade shot for shot with George because of his chin and he knows it. Lyle couldn�t either but he was willing to try it and paid the price with his career (he was never the same). On top of this though, this is Foremans POST ali self. And oddity. Still physically in his prime but not mentally. Those few years after his defeat to Ali saw George get hit a lot more and act very careless and disinterested. George was back to his old character in his comeback, however with adjustments to his style to compensate for his time off and age.

the Version of George that is unbeaten and trained by Saddler probably steamrolls lewis. Too many factors Lewis has to overcome. The main one being his size and height won�t protect him as a natural barrier. Foreman would crash right through those gates he�s not gonna stay on the end of that jab.

^^^^^ Best analysis in the thread. Should be required reading for cfang and BKM.

[BKM-]

^^^^^ Best analysis in the thread. Should be required reading for cfang and BKM.

Don't tell me what to read, kid. I have by far the most impartial and unbiased analysis in this thread. I am a fan of both Foreman and Lewis and I can see it going either way, it's hard enough to pick a winner for me.

The post you're quoting is biased and very lacking in understanding of boxing. Nobody just "steamrolls" Lennox Lewis. If you actually think Foreman just goes right at Lewis winging wild hooks and KO's him then you have failed to understand this sport.

[The Defecator]

Don't tell me what to read, kid. I have by far the most impartial and unbiased analysis in this thread. I am a fan of both Foreman and Lewis and I can see it going either way, it's hard enough to pick a winner for me.

The post you're quoting is biased and very lacking in understanding of boxing. Nobody just "steamrolls" Lennox Lewis. If you actually think Foreman just goes right at Lewis winging wild hooks and KO's him then you have failed to understand this sport.

1. I wasn't talking TO you, I was talking ABOUT you. Know your role, Junior.

2. Nothing you've posted has been analytical in any way, just gratuitous assertions from a NPC fanboi.

3. The person who wrote that post has a ****ton of technical knowledge about the sport, something YOU obviously lack (and unlike you actually DOES make an analytical post). Not his fault an armchair boxing "expert" like you lacks the wit to understand it.

4. As for the "kid" reference: Junior, I've probably been watching boxing (and other sports) since before you were born (something I'm sure your ***** and egg doners regretted the moment the doctor slapped your malformed ass.

5. Oh, and you're this week's award winner, cong**** The Defecation.jpg

[The Defecator]

And, for the record, that's the first and last post I'm addressing to BKM: He's now going on my ignore list of people who wasted my time with ******, juvenile bullshit. I have neither the time, energy, or inclination to go around in circles with internet stans.

[BKM-]

And, for the record, that's the first and last post I'm addressing to BKM: He's now going on my ignore list of people who wasted my time with ******, juvenile bullshit. I have neither the time, energy, or inclination to go around in circles with internet stans.

Trying to run away like a little boy after throwing dirt because you're scared of the consequences is in fact proof that you're nowhere near the age you're pretending to be. You just behaved like a son who knows he did something wrong and is trying to flee from the wrath of his father.

I will repeat this again: That post trying to big up Foreman was lacking in knowledge and mostly focused on size-insecurity like Them Apples is somewhat known for(speaking of ignore lists, I once put them apples on my ignore list for something i can't remember,I just tried to remove him from the list but his posts are still hidden. Something is wrong with the forum). His bottom line was that Foreman would simply charge at Lewis with wild hooks and knock him out.

That is the worst analysis that could possible be put forth in this fantasy matchup. It doesn't just discredit Lennox lewis but it discredits George Foreman even more. It puts forth the historically inaccurate idea that he was just some powerful brute who swung his way through opponents and had no technique and true purpose to his methods.

So for the record I am not insulted at the idea that someone would think Lewis would get KO'd easily. I am insulted by the idea that George Foreman is nothing but lucky genetics and attributes. There was so much more to him and I think it is sad that he doesn't get THAT type of credit today, even by people who think that they are his fans and hyping him up, like this pea-brained imbecile I just wasted my time on.

[them_apples]

Trying to run away like a little boy after throwing dirt because you're scared of the consequences is in fact proof that you're nowhere near the age you're pretending to be. You just behaved like a son who knows he did something wrong and is trying to flee from the wrath of his father.

I will repeat this again: That post trying to big up Foreman was lacking in knowledge and mostly focused on size-insecurity like Them Apples is somewhat known for(speaking of ignore lists, I once put them apples on my ignore list for something i can't remember,I just tried to remove him from the list but his posts are still hidden. Something is wrong with the forum). His bottom line was that Foreman would simply charge at Lewis with wild hooks and knock him out.

That is the worst analysis that could possible be put forth in this fantasy matchup. It doesn't just discredit Lennox lewis but it discredits George Foreman even more. It puts forth the historically inaccurate idea that he was just some powerful brute who swung his way through opponents and had no technique and true purpose to his methods.

So for the record I am not insulted at the idea that someone would think Lewis would get KO'd easily. I am insulted by the idea that George Foreman is nothing but lucky genetics and attributes. There was so much more to him and I think it is sad that he doesn't get THAT type of credit today, even by people who think that they are his fans and hyping him up, like this pea-brained imbecile I just wasted my time on.

Just watch old George take out cooney or young George take out Bob Hazelton. These guys are Lennox Height or taller. Cooney was the same weight roughly.

its not that Lewis isn’t better than these guys, its that George steamrolls “bigger guys”. Because George is so strong, it negates their size. Usually these big guys fight a bit lazy because they can hold opponents off with that weight and size. With George this doesn’t work though because of his natural strength. So he exposes their lacking defense in this sense.

Another way of understanding it is this: take away lewis’ weight and size and his defense would take a nose dive. That weight and size is half of his defense right there. Its the same reason Hearns got koed at middleweight a few times. As soon as he loses the strength advantage his lacking defense got exposed. Out of those great 4 fighters, hearns was the only one that never really learned to ride punches, likely because he spent his early years punching down and shorter guys.

anyhow, this is why George steamrolls lewis. He just has to brawl with him and he would. Lewis couldn’t keep him off.

[QueensburyRules]

Also one of two heavyweight champions to defeat every man he ever faced.

- - One of the few, maybe the only unified champs to never have a unified title defense while selling off his titles to Don King for his last grab at dominating heavyweight promotions.

Dullard: a ****** or unimaginative person.

[JAB5239]

Dullard: a ****** or unimaginative person.

You've just described yourself. Lewis resume speaks for itself.

[Boxing_Fan101]

- - One of the few, maybe the only unified champs to never have a unified title defense while selling off his titles to Don King for his last grab at dominating heavyweight promotions.

Dullard: a ****** or unimaginative person.

Lewis sued King to force the fight with Tyson and demanded Bowe fight him to suggest he was anything but a warrior is ****** he also beat the only two fighters who knocked him out in rematches

Not his fault no one wanted to step in the ring with him, similar situation to Hrgovic now