One thing Marciano was great at

[them_apples]

Also, the larger the two fighters are, the less meaningful each pound of weight difference is; in other words, a ten pound difference in weight is relatively meaningless to two fighters over 200 pounds, but is a huge difference for two fighters under 130 pounds. Diminishing returns the higher up the scale you go. And, too, I think at the upper end you eventually reach a point where the added weight starts working against you.

yeah. Once they hit a certain size it actually becomes a hinderance. Boxing hasn’t changed, there just aren’t many good small heavies anymore or even light heavies for that matter.

the big guys in Louis and Dempseys day weren’t the best either. But they had fighters like Louis and Dempseys around to topple them.

[QueensburyRules]

yeah. Once they hit a certain size it actually becomes a hinderance. Boxing hasnât changed, there just arenât many good small heavies anymore or even light heavies for that matter.

the big guys in Louis and Dempseys day werenât the best either. But they had fighters like Louis and Dempseys around to topple them.

- - Bivol and Beter capable of beating any LH in history.

Of course they would have modern division strength and weight advantages, so not a fair comparison…

[markusmod]

- - Bivol and Beter capable of beating any LH in history.

Of course they would have modern division strength and weight advantages, so not a fair comparison…

Capable, but not sold they beat some of the ATGs

[Slugfester]

Capable, but not sold they beat some of the ATGs

He is repeating the same old mistake of novice observers; judging boxers as ATGs because they beat up a few contemporaries. Suddenly they would beat anyone in history. Wait for the cues to know when a fool is speaking. Holmes couldn't fight, but Beter and Bivol could. That had ought to be enough right there. I imagine prime Roy Jones would kill either slow poke before they could take a step.

[Ivich]

- - Bivol and Beter capable of beating any LH in history.

Of course they would have modern division strength and weight advantages, so not a fair comparison…

Whom have they beat?

Beterbiev is a terrific puncher with average speed and so so foot work ,he can be caught square and dropped,and because of it,his boxing ability is limited.
Bivol is a good boxer with a fair punch but nothing exceptional
Delaney
Dillon
Lewis
H Johnson
Marshall
Have they beaten any one of that calibre?

Let alone the top tier
Charles
Moore
Conn
Foster
Spinks
Loughran
???


Have they beaten anyone as good as the great 70's era's 175pounders, Saad, M Johnson,Mustapha Muhammad,Galindez, Conteh ,Qawi ?
How many men as good as
Burnett,Lopez,Kates ,Hutchins,Ahumada,have they beaten?

[QueensburyRules]

Whom have they beat?

Beterbiev is a terrific puncher with average speed and so so foot work ,he can be caught square and dropped,and because of it,his boxing ability is limited.
Bivol is a good boxer with a fair punch but nothing exceptional
Delaney
Dillon
Lewis
H Johnson
Marshall
Have they beaten any one of that calibre?

Let alone the top tier
Charles
Moore
Conn
Foster
Spinks
Loughran
???


Have they beaten anyone as good as the great 70's era's 175pounders, Saad, M Johnson,Mustapha Muhammad,Galindez, Conteh ,Qawi ?
How many men as good as
Burnett,Lopez,Kates ,Hutchins,Ahumada,have they beaten?

- - All just names in their day when HOF didn't exist for most of your list.

Look, you got beat up such that you quit boxing. Beter is as big as Floyd Patterson with more power and better chin, an easy KO for Beter. Maybe you should check the last 5 yrs of the IBHOF selections before you soil yourself further.

[Ivich]

- - All just names in their day when HOF didn't exist for most of your list.

Look, you got beat up such that you quit boxing. Beter is as big as Floyd Patterson with more power and better chin, an easy KO for Beter. Maybe you should check the last 5 yrs of the IBHOF selections before you soil yourself further.

You should check how many of those old names are in the HOFand whom they beat.
You should also check whom Beterbiev and Bivol have beaten to prove your statement they could beat any LHvy.
Newsflash Joe Smith Jnr doesn't cut it!

Its official, you're a fool!'

[QueensburyRules]

You should check how many of those old names are in the HOFand whom they beat.
You should also check whom Beterbiev and Bivol have beaten to prove your statement they could beat any LHvy.
Newsflash Joe Smith Jnr doesn't cut it!

Its official, you're a fool!'

- - U gumming ungutted French snails ain't exactly a qualifier for boxing knowledge.

IBHOF 2024:

The International Boxing Hall of Fame and Museum, which will be celebrating its 35th Anniversary in 2024, has announced the newest class of inductees to be honored during the Hall of Fame Induction Weekend June 6-9, 2024.

The Class of 2024 includes Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton, Michael “Double M” Moorer, Ivan “Iron Boy” Calderon and Diego “Chico” Corrales (posthumous) in the men’s Modern category; Jane “The Fleetwood Assassin” Couch and “La Guerrera” Ana Maria Torres in the Women’s modern category; trainer Kenny Adams, manager Jackie Kallen and publicist Fred Sternburg in the Non-Participant category; journalist Wallace Matthews and broadcaster Nick Charles (posthumous) in the Observer category; Luis Angel Firpo (posthumous) in the Old Timer category and Theresa Kibby (posthumous) in the women’s Trailblazer category...

[Ivich]

- - U gumming ungutted French snails ain't exactly a qualifier for boxing knowledge.

IBHOF 2024:

The International Boxing Hall of Fame and Museum, which will be celebrating its 35th Anniversary in 2024, has announced the newest class of inductees to be honored during the Hall of Fame Induction Weekend June 6-9, 2024.

The Class of 2024 includes Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton, Michael “Double M” Moorer, Ivan “Iron Boy” Calderon and Diego “Chico” Corrales (posthumous) in the men’s Modern category; Jane “The Fleetwood Assassin” Couch and “La Guerrera” Ana Maria Torres in the Women’s modern category; trainer Kenny Adams, manager Jackie Kallen and publicist Fred Sternburg in the Non-Participant category; journalist Wallace Matthews and broadcaster Nick Charles (posthumous) in the Observer category; Luis Angel Firpo (posthumous) in the Old Timer category and Theresa Kibby (posthumous) in the women’s Trailblazer category...

FYI Snails are cleansed in a tank for some time prior to eating, you seem obsessed with them.

WGAF about the Boxing Hall Of Fame Museum?

[markusmod]

He is repeating the same old mistake of novice observers; judging boxers as ATGs because they beat up a few contemporaries. Suddenly they would beat anyone in history. Wait for the cues to know when a fool is speaking. Holmes couldn't fight, but Beter and Bivol could. That had ought to be enough right there. I imagine prime Roy Jones would kill either slow poke before they could take a step.

And he could play a game of basketball beforehand!