Roy Jones Jr.'s Legacy

[IMDAZED]

The problem is that Jones never fought Michalczewski, Benn, Eubank or Collins. Without that, we can never know how great he was.

Yeah, that's true. No one can say they're great until they fight those guys, regardless of who they beat

[Stoppage]

This forum has got some good posters getting very personal.
Come on gentlemen you guys are better than that.
Be boring if we agreed on everything but politeness always will have me listening to your views even if I don't agree whereas I tune out on rudeness even if the poster is making a valid argument.

In the end, you're right. But I still felt it was needed for this certain poster because of his insane favoritism.

[Mr Boxing9]

Yeah, that's true. No one can say they're great until they fight those guys, regardless of who they beat

Gotta agree with that...........

[IMDAZED]

Gotta agree with that...........

Reminds me of that old George Foreman comment, when he came out of left field with, "No one can say they're pound for pound until they beat James Page."

[Mr Boxing9]

Reminds me of that old George Foreman comment, when he came out of left field with, "No one can say they're pound for pound until they beat James Page."

[Benncollinsaad]

Yeah, that's true. No one can say they're great until they fight those guys, regardless of who they beat

That's right. Glad you got that bit.

[Obama]

wow, reggies only losses before jones were all disputed(except his very first which i did'nt watch)
he without a doubt got robbed against toney(i thought he won that handily)
close fight against john jackson(according to th cards, did'nt watch)
two split decision loses against fernando castro(which roy jones walked right through)
and then loses EVERY round, getting knocked down twice and TOYED with against roy jones jr
his next lose is against antonio tarver, which came by another split decision

i dont care wht the **** you say cuz you got your head too far up your ass to be doin anything other than talkin ****, roy jones annihilated a very good fighter in reggie johnson, without breaking a sweat

You know Reggie debuted in '84, right? You know Jones fought him in '99, right? You realize I never said Reggie wasn't an elite fighter in his prime, right? It's a good win for Jones, far from a great one. Perhaps the manner in which he beat Reggie was great, but the victory itself was not. Roy Jones, like Mike Tyson, blew fighters out of the water who weren't close to his level. It's just what they were good at. This does not translate to their ability to beat great fighters.

What he has done past his prime is about as relevant as Ali's fight with Burbick.

Wrong. What Roy does NOW (or maybe even a little after now) is that relevant. What Roy did in '04 however? Far from it. What Roy did in '04 is to be compared to what Ali did around '73 to '75. In '74 Ali beat Frazier and Foreman, in '04 Roy got KOed by Tarver and Johnson.

Now tell me, which guy seemed to be the greater fighter post-prime? Post-prime always matters. It's when the guy is completely shot (what Ali was against Berbick) is when it doesn't matter that he gets beat up.

[Steward]

Why do people keep saying Hopkins wasn't in his prime? When is his prime? he had just won 22 fights in a row.... Hopkins is a testament as to how good Jones is... Hopkins was clever enough to realise, when Jones went up in weight he could own a whole division, Jones had pretty much cleared it out. Thats why he never fought Jones again at light heavyweight. Not a good reason not to, it's Hopkin's natural weight it was offered (all the youtube videos with their squabble on) He was too good for his own good.

Say all you want about his legacy, there was no one more exciting to watch....

Useless you want to wait around another 106 years....

[Obama]

When is his prime?

'97 to '03.

[JAB5239]

The following guys could have fought a prime RJJ at LHW:

Dariusz M
Joe Calzaghe
Steve Collins
James Toney (clearly robbed blind in the 2nd Griffin fight)

Also Bernard was willing to meet him at SMW.

Not going to blame Roy, but, hey, none of the fights came off. And all of the fights would have been deemed better wins than what he currently has on his LHW resume.

I agree they would have added to his legacy at 175. Thing is, none of them put themselves into a mandatory position to fight Roy at that weight, and neither Roy or DM would budge and try and meet in the middle. I think a prime Roy would beat all of them, but I would have preferred the fights to have been made so we could know for sure.

By the way, Piss****** has been banned again.