Carlos Monzon. How great was he? Feel free to post a fight.

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  • Ivich
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    #151
    [QUOTE=DooGee#33;n32037196]
    Originally posted by Ivich
    That's not my post.
    No I was referring to QB when I posted yout name did not appear.

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      #152
      Originally posted by Slugfester
      One thing for sure, no ATG had the fierce competition they get around here in fantasy matchups. Whose competition was closest to the fantasy world, would you say? Which middleweight champ had the best prime competition of all time. I believe that may have been Hagler. Leonard and Hearns were dead in their primes when he faced them. Mugabi was awful tough and in his prime too I think. I believe Griffith was slightly past it when he faced Monzon. He started fighting in 1959. The amazing thing is he had an 11 fight winning streak before that fight, and a six fight streak after it. He did this a little past it and not at his prime weight. What a fighter! Not sure about Briscoe and some others. Everything is bound to come up.

      Speaking of Griffith, his resume could be the most studded ever, outside of perhaps Langford. Like Robinson, he fought world class fighters right out of the gate of his career.

      Everyone knows Valdez was real good, but not an ATG. He would never hurt your roster but only build it. When a good deal of a man's early fights take place in boxing backwaters there is always a large unknown. But what Monzon did to real competition speaks for itself. He could never be less than 5th among AT middleweights IMO opinion as of now.
      When Monzon took the Argentinian Middleweight title from Jorge Fernandez by a debatable decision ,[the kd of Fernandez in the 4th rd playing a big part in the verdict,] Fernandez was ranked no 4 in the world by Boxing Illustrated and had a record of 109-6-3.Monzon was then ranked 41st by BI.
      Monzon went 13 years and 90 fights without a loss.
      In 100 fights he lost just 3 times and avenged each one.
      Last edited by Ivich; 10-12-2023, 05:59 AM.

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      • kara
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        #153
        Originally posted by Ivich

        When Monzon took the Argentinian Middleweight title from Jorge Fernandez by a debatable decision ,[the kd of Fernandez in the 4th rd playing a big part in the verdict,] Fernandez was ranked no 4 in the world by Boxing Illustrated and had a record of 109-6-3.Monzon was then ranked 41st by BI.
        Monzon went 13 years and 90 fights without a loss.
        In 100 fights he lost just 3 times and avenged each one.
        I need to buy a few back issues of BI to read some solid stuff from way back

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        • QueensburyRules
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          #154
          [QUOTE=DooGee#33;n32037196]
          Originally posted by Ivich
          That's not my post.
          - - Nor mine. Vitch makes a hash of smashed snails with his every quote function...C'est la vie...

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          • Marchegiano
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            #155
            Ah new forum, running smooth as it always has. Like day one of the transfer ... still.

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