Boxing Telecast Help

[dnahar]

Hello,
I am a boxing researcher and I am trying to get correct weights for World Championship Fights. The issue I’m trying to overcome is that a lot of fights in foreign countries where the weigh-in was done in kilos and grams have weights entered in lbs using American and British sources. And the conversions from kilos to lbs is often wrong. So I am trying to confirm the weights of the following fights using the telecasts or some local source that gives weights in kilos and grams.

If anyone has any of the following fights (I have already checked what’s on YouTube), can you post the weights in kilos and grams announced or shown on the telecast for me? I would add any changes directly into BoxRec. I appreciate any help.

FIGHTS
LIGHT HEAVY
Nov 21, 1987 Virgil Hill-Angulo
June 10, 1988 Charles Williams-Caramanolis
March 20, 1993 Henry Maske-Charles Williams
LIGHT
Dec 5, 1992 Miguel Angel Gonzalez-Tyson
FEATHER
Sept 22, 1989 Antonio Esparragoza-Montoya
Dec 9, 1995 Tom Johnson-Jose Badillo
BANTAM
Feb 5, 1977 Carlos Zarate-Fernando Cabanela
Apr 23, 1992 Orlando Canizales-Alvarez
FLY
Feb 22, 1986 Sot Chitalada-Castillo
Jr LIGHT
Apr 18, 1987 Julio Cesar Chavez-Cruz
Apr 26, 1988 Brian Mitchell-Jose Rivera II (Madrid)
Jr BANTAM
July 28, 1980 Rafael Orono-Jensen
Mar 20, 1987 Gilberto Roman-Cedeno
Oct 16, 1990 Robert Quiroga-Nene
CRUISER
Nov 22, 1990 Robert Daniels-Belbouli
Dec 13, 1991 Anaclet Wamba-Duran III
Oct 16, 1992 Anaclet Wamba-Maynard
Mar 6, 1993 Anaclet Wamba-Vedder
Nov 12, 1994 Orlin Norris-James Heath
Oct 3, 1998 Juan Carlos Gomez-Iliin
SUPER MIDDLE
Nov 23, 1990 Christophe Tiozzo-Morgan
Apr 5, 1991 Victor Cordoba-Tiozzo
Aug 12, 1994 Frankie Liles-Little

[kara]

Hello,
I am a boxing researcher and I am trying to get correct weights for World Championship Fights. The issue I’m trying to overcome is that a lot of fights in foreign countries where the weigh-in was done in kilos and grams have weights entered in lbs using American and British sources. And the conversions from kilos to lbs is often wrong. So I am trying to confirm the weights of the following fights using the telecasts or some local source that gives weights in kilos and grams.

If anyone has any of the following fights (I have already checked what’s on YouTube), can you post the weights in kilos and grams announced or shown on the telecast for me? I would add any changes directly into BoxRec. I appreciate any help.

FIGHTS
LIGHT HEAVY
Nov 21, 1987 Virgil Hill-Angulo
June 10, 1988 Charles Williams-Caramanolis
March 20, 1993 Henry Maske-Charles Williams
LIGHT
Dec 5, 1992 Miguel Angel Gonzalez-Tyson
Oct 19, 1996 Philip Holiday-Diaz
FEATHER
Oct 22, 1983 Eusebio Pedroza-Caba
May 27, 1984 Eusebio Pedroza-Mayor
Sept 22, 1989 Antonio Esparragoza-Montoya
Feb 26, 1993 Tom Johnson-Manuel Medina II
Dec 9, 1995 Tom Johnson-Jose Badillo
BANTAM
Feb 5, 1977 Carlos Zarate-Fernando Cabanela
Apr 23, 1992 Orlando Canizales-Alvarez
Nov 25, 1995 Mbulelo Botile-Hurtado
June 26, 1996 Mbulelo Botile-Arlos
FLY
Feb 22, 1986 Sot Chitalada-Castillo
Jr LIGHT
Apr 18, 1987 Julio Cesar Chavez-Cruz
Aug 21, 1987 Julio Cesar Chavez-Cabrera
Apr 26, 1988 Brian Mitchell-Jose Rivera II (Madrid)
Jr MIDDLE
Oct 25, 1986 Mike McCallum-Skouma
Jr FEATHER
June 2, 1990 Welcome Ncita-Ramon Cruz
Sept 29, 1990 Welcome Ncita-Gerardo Lopez
Sept 28, 1991 Welcome Ncita-Rojas II
Feb 19, 1994 Kennedy McKinney-Rincones
Nov 19, 1994 Vuyani Bungu-Camacho
Mar 4, 1995 Vuyani Bungu-Nurhada
Aug 18, 1996 Vuyani Bungu-Salud
Feb 6, 1999 Vuyani Bungu-Llerena II
Jr BANTAM
July 28, 1980 Rafael Orono-Jensen
Mar 20, 1987 Gilberto Roman-Cedeno
Oct 16, 1990 Robert Quiroga-Nene
Jan 26, 1991 Robert Quiroga-Belcastro
Feb 15, 1992 Robert Quiroga-Mercado
May 22, 1993 Julio Cesar Borboa-Zarate
Nov 26, 1993 Julio Cesar Borboa-Pascua
Dec 17, 1994 Harold Grey-Belcastro
CRUISER
Nov 27, 1989 Robert Daniels-Qawi
Nov 22, 1990 Robert Daniels-Belbouli
Dec 13, 1991 Anaclet Wamba-Duran III
June 13, 1992 Anaclet Wamba-Rudenko
Oct 16, 1992 Anaclet Wamba-Maynard
Mar 6, 1993 Anaclet Wamba-Vedder
July 14, 1994 Anaclet Wamba-Washington
Nov 12, 1994 Orlin Norris-James Heath
Oct 3, 1998 Juan Carlos Gomez-Iliin
SUPER MIDDLE
Nov 23, 1990 Christophe Tiozzo-Morgan
Apr 5, 1991 Victor Cordoba-Tiozzo
Aug 12, 1994 Frankie Liles-Little

There are free calculators online where you can covert the weight to pounds or kilos.

[Willie Pep 229]

Asking for help with an oddity is one thing.

But making a list and then claiming to be a "boxing researcher" iIsa whole other thing.

[billeau2]

Hello,
I am a boxing researcher and I am trying to get correct weights for World Championship Fights. The issue I’m trying to overcome is that a lot of fights in foreign countries where the weigh-in was done in kilos and grams have weights entered in lbs using American and British sources. And the conversions from kilos to lbs is often wrong. So I am trying to confirm the weights of the following fights using the telecasts or some local source that gives weights in kilos and grams.

If anyone has any of the following fights (I have already checked what’s on YouTube), can you post the weights in kilos and grams announced or shown on the telecast for me? I would add any changes directly into BoxRec. I appreciate any help.

FIGHTS
LIGHT HEAVY
Nov 21, 1987 Virgil Hill-Angulo
June 10, 1988 Charles Williams-Caramanolis
March 20, 1993 Henry Maske-Charles Williams
LIGHT
Dec 5, 1992 Miguel Angel Gonzalez-Tyson
Oct 19, 1996 Philip Holiday-Diaz
FEATHER
Oct 22, 1983 Eusebio Pedroza-Caba
May 27, 1984 Eusebio Pedroza-Mayor
Sept 22, 1989 Antonio Esparragoza-Montoya
Feb 26, 1993 Tom Johnson-Manuel Medina II
Dec 9, 1995 Tom Johnson-Jose Badillo
BANTAM
Feb 5, 1977 Carlos Zarate-Fernando Cabanela
Apr 23, 1992 Orlando Canizales-Alvarez
Nov 25, 1995 Mbulelo Botile-Hurtado
June 26, 1996 Mbulelo Botile-Arlos
FLY
Feb 22, 1986 Sot Chitalada-Castillo
Jr LIGHT
Apr 18, 1987 Julio Cesar Chavez-Cruz
Aug 21, 1987 Julio Cesar Chavez-Cabrera
Apr 26, 1988 Brian Mitchell-Jose Rivera II (Madrid)
Jr MIDDLE
Oct 25, 1986 Mike McCallum-Skouma
Jr FEATHER
June 2, 1990 Welcome Ncita-Ramon Cruz
Sept 29, 1990 Welcome Ncita-Gerardo Lopez
Sept 28, 1991 Welcome Ncita-Rojas II
Feb 19, 1994 Kennedy McKinney-Rincones
Nov 19, 1994 Vuyani Bungu-Camacho
Mar 4, 1995 Vuyani Bungu-Nurhada
Aug 18, 1996 Vuyani Bungu-Salud
Feb 6, 1999 Vuyani Bungu-Llerena II
Jr BANTAM
July 28, 1980 Rafael Orono-Jensen
Mar 20, 1987 Gilberto Roman-Cedeno
Oct 16, 1990 Robert Quiroga-Nene
Jan 26, 1991 Robert Quiroga-Belcastro
Feb 15, 1992 Robert Quiroga-Mercado
May 22, 1993 Julio Cesar Borboa-Zarate
Nov 26, 1993 Julio Cesar Borboa-Pascua
Dec 17, 1994 Harold Grey-Belcastro
CRUISER
Nov 27, 1989 Robert Daniels-Qawi
Nov 22, 1990 Robert Daniels-Belbouli
Dec 13, 1991 Anaclet Wamba-Duran III
June 13, 1992 Anaclet Wamba-Rudenko
Oct 16, 1992 Anaclet Wamba-Maynard
Mar 6, 1993 Anaclet Wamba-Vedder
July 14, 1994 Anaclet Wamba-Washington
Nov 12, 1994 Orlin Norris-James Heath
Oct 3, 1998 Juan Carlos Gomez-Iliin
SUPER MIDDLE
Nov 23, 1990 Christophe Tiozzo-Morgan
Apr 5, 1991 Victor Cordoba-Tiozzo
Aug 12, 1994 Frankie Liles-Little

May I make a suggestion? Regardless of any information you may find regarding someone announcing the weights in "stones" or whatever, Your problem is a simple one: Make sure you verify the math on the conversion. You should do so anyway... There is no "right" or "wrong" on a conversion.

[billeau2]

Asking for help with an oddity is one thing.

But making a list and then claiming to be a "boxing researcher" iIsa whole other thing.

He didn't claim to be a an experienced researcher. Its the intrawebs... Could be a 13 or 63 year old lol. But it should be dully noted that conversions are not subjective elements in the research process. Unless YOU are NASA and CONFUSE the metric system with good ole Murica!.

HEY! Maybe we have a NASA scientist among us! The Polish division is getting ready to go to the sun ya know? they plan to go at night.

[kara]

He didn't claim to be a an experienced researcher. Its the intrawebs... Could be a 13 or 63 year old lol. But it should be dully noted that conversions are not subjective elements in the research process. Unless YOU are NASA and CONFUSE the metric system with good ole Murica!.

HEY! Maybe we have a NASA scientist among us! The Polish division is getting ready to go to the sun ya know? they plan to go at night.

Could be Queen under an alt to get a weekend laugh on us all

[dnahar]

There are free calculators online where you can covert the weight to pounds or kilos.

Maybe I didn’t convey the point of the list. Most of the weights that are given are from American or British sources. Because they aren’t from the original weigh-in, the conversions are all guesses and many have been proven wrong from local sources. For the fights listed, I couldn’t find a local newspaper that had a report on the weigh-in which is why I asked to get the weights from the foreign telecast or announcement in the ring.

[dnahar]

Asking for help with an oddity is one thing.

But making a list and then claiming to be a "boxing researcher" iIsa whole other thing.

But I am a researcher. I have been a BoxRec editor for almost 20 years and I worked on the Boxing Register book of IBHOF fighters. Getting the correct weights for these fights is a passion project of mine so I was hoping someone would have a telecast or two from the list I need. I have found/confirmed weights on over a hundred of these fights already. I would appreciate any help.

[kara]

Maybe I didn’t convey the point of the list. Most of the weights that are given are from American or British sources. Because they aren’t from the original weigh-in, the conversions are all guesses and many have been proven wrong from local sources. For the fights listed, I couldn’t find a local newspaper that had a report on the weigh-in which is why I asked to get the weights from the foreign telecast or announcement in the ring.

Ah ok.

[dnahar]

May I make a suggestion? Regardless of any information you may find regarding someone announcing the weights in "stones" or whatever, Your problem is a simple one: Make sure you verify the math on the conversion. You should do so anyway... There is no "right" or "wrong" on a conversion.

I guess I didn’t explain myself well. Because the weights are given in lbs in American and British sources, the weights are already converted. However, the actual weigh-in was done in kilos and grams and when I found local sources, many of the conversions in the American and British sources were wrong. I’m trying to use local newspaper sources or fight telecasts to directly get the weights in kilos and grams straight from the weigh-in. If you have any of these fights or know someone that does, I would appreciate any help. Thanks.