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  • #21
    Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

    Lighter and smaller.
    Well from 1930-1985 roughly 8 oz was the standard. They were all horsehair fill though, like reyes. And the thumb wasnt attached. You could roll them up and compress the padding as well.

    pacquiao used to hammer the plexus regularly

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    • #22
      "Rolling with the punch" is rarely seen too.
      When a punch lands on the face, the fighter turns with it to lessen it's power.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Jose L. View Post
        "Rolling with the punch" is rarely seen too.
        When a punch lands on the face, the fighter turns with it to lessen it's power.
        Fury tends to do it a lot, so does Shakur

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        • #24
          Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
          Great list. Toney sometimes imitates Moore and hits the arms on his counters... As an aside, from a Self protection standpoint, as Slugfester says: the angle is very important here. Some of the practices against a boxer would apply with smaller gloves, definitely with no gloves, these include:

          1. Chain punching, open hand hitting down on an extended guard
          2. Hitting, punching the guard down with bone concussive strikes
          3. Hitting the bicept in close, and (often) following through with a shot towards the raised area created.
          4. shooting weight back at an angle to catch the wrist bones with a shot.

          A word on striking the tricept and elbow: The tricept is very durable, but it is close to the arm, so concussive hits are best. The elbow is a doble edged sword: You can hit it at point and hurt yourself, or you can catch it at a slight 45 degree angle and really do damage to the puncher.

          Some things we do not see anymore:

          1. Guys seldom feint and when they do they don't sell it.
          2. Fewer Pressure fighters... Legit pressure guys who depend exclusively on constant unrelenting pressure. Most guys who use pressure well are stylistically big punchers... Pitbull Cruz IMO is a legit pressure fighter... Why does this matter? Great fighters, both punchers and boxers can often lose to a crude looking fellow, if that fellow is a bona fide pressure guy. For example, Robinson lost a fight to LaMotta, a great example of a pressure fighter. Marciano, who did have a big punch (to be fair), could fight men who considered technically so much more refined, like Ezzard Charles.

          That is a few I see.
          I think Fury sells his feints quite well.

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          • #25
            We watch the best fighters. Were club fighters in the day practicing hitting the arms? That would depend on their coaches, I think.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by kara View Post

              Callum Smith had black and blues. He tried the same to Bivol, but he took the punches better
              No, no, no, lad! That is not how I saw it. Canelo was hitting the arms because he was completely outclassed against the Russkie, and unable to land anywhere else. It wasn't a strategy at all. No one throws just about all punches to the arms for 12 rounds on purpose. He hardly landed a punch other than to the arms, and I hardly think that was strategy. Canelo is a pretty decent fighter, but he had no business in the ring with Bivol. Maybe he does hit the arms on purpose in other fights. But in that fight I think perhaps some were on purpose, but relatively few against the ones he threw because he could not land anywhere else.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

                No, no, no, lad! That is not how I saw it. Canelo was hitting the arms because he was completely outclassed against the Russkie, and unable to land anywhere else. It wasn't a strategy at all. No one throws just about all punches to the arms for 12 rounds on purpose. He hardly landed a punch other than to the arms, and I hardly think that was strategy. Canelo is a pretty decent fighter, but he had no business in the ring with Bivol. Maybe he does hit the arms on purpose in other fights. But in that fight I think perhaps some were on purpose, but relatively few against the ones he threw because he could not land anywhere else.
                I think he did it because it worked with Smith and felt that it could work again - but it didnt

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                • #28
                  Having the mob threaten to murder your opponent if they don't do business is something that's gone out of style too.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
                    Having the mob threaten to murder your opponent if they don't do business is something that's gone out of style too.
                    Hahahahahhaha!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                      Great list. Toney sometimes imitates Moore and hits the arms on his counters... As an aside, from a Self protection standpoint, as Slugfester says: the angle is very important here. Some of the practices against a boxer would apply with smaller gloves, definitely with no gloves, these include:

                      1. Chain punching, open hand hitting down on an extended guard
                      2. Hitting, punching the guard down with bone concussive strikes
                      3. Hitting the bicept in close, and (often) following through with a shot towards the raised area created.
                      4. shooting weight back at an angle to catch the wrist bones with a shot.

                      A word on striking the tricept and elbow: The tricept is very durable, but it is close to the arm, so concussive hits are best. The elbow is a doble edged sword: You can hit it at point and hurt yourself, or you can catch it at a slight 45 degree angle and really do damage to the puncher.

                      Some things we do not see anymore:

                      1. Guys seldom feint and when they do they don't sell it.
                      2. Fewer Pressure fighters... Legit pressure guys who depend exclusively on constant unrelenting pressure. Most guys who use pressure well are stylistically big punchers... Pitbull Cruz IMO is a legit pressure fighter... Why does this matter? Great fighters, both punchers and boxers can often lose to a crude looking fellow, if that fellow is a bona fide pressure guy. For example, Robinson lost a fight to LaMotta, a great example of a pressure fighter. Marciano, who did have a big punch (to be fair), could fight men who considered technically so much more refined, like Ezzard Charles.

                      That is a few I see.
                      And feints can be huge in trying to open a guy up defensively.

                      If you can sell them and get a guy to bite on it, the world becomes your oyster.

                      Use your eyes and notice his reactions, in between the exchanges formulate something working off of that feint. Then feint and drop it on him.

                      I was an in your face throwing punches as a pro. I thought about how I decided to fight that way. Being ultra-aggressive was simply liked by the crowds and that's how I fought.

                      Everybody prepares for fights to box, I prepared for a brawl, and made them in to one.

                      I'd challenge you to hit me and counter sharply, assuming that I was able to get out the way, or eat it if I wasn't. And then I'm right back on you. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.....etc. Until that bell rings.

                      I may have been on to something.

                      ...............Rockin'
                      Last edited by Rockin'; 09-26-2023, 12:49 AM.
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