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  • #11
    - - Dempsey supported his mother and father, the reason he started out so poor.

    American WW1 casualty rates dwarfed those of France, Britain, Germany, and Russia.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
      - - Dempsey supported his mother and father, the reason he started out so poor.

      American WW1 casualty rates dwarfed those of France, Britain, Germany, and Russia.
      No issues with those truths.
      the war afterall, Over There.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

        No issues with those truths.
        the war afterall, Over There.
        - - Each MLB baseball team were it's own militia who drilled on field before games where deferred or not.

        Ty Cobb, Christy Matthewson, George Sisler worked a mustard gas facility in France where Christy got gassed in an accident with the other's almost gassed. That 2 .400 HOF hitters and one of the iconic HOF pitchers ever who near died and was never the same in his return.

        Nastiness in humanity has no end as modern atrocities prove.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Each MLB baseball team were it's own militia who drilled on field before games where deferred or not.

          Ty Cobb, Christy Matthewson, George Sisler worked a mustard gas facility in France where Christy got gassed in an accident with the other's almost gassed. That 2 .400 HOF hitters and one of the iconic HOF pitchers ever who near died and was never the same in his return.

          Nastiness in humanity has no end as modern atrocities prove.
          Add in 'Ol Pete (Grover Cleveland Alexander).

          An attempted bogus marriage that didn't seem to work, then mustered gassed in France, then wounded (partial lost of hearing), then epilepsy episodes, and then PTSD (shell shock).

          Crawled inside a bottle but still had a HOF career.

          1911-1930

          From Wikipedia:

          "Alexander spent most of the 1918 season in France as a sergeant with the 342nd Field Artillery Regiment, 89th Division. While he was serving in France, he was exposed to German mustard gas and a shell exploded near him, causing partial hearing loss and triggering the onset of epilepsy. Alexander returned to the United States in April 1919.

          Following his return from the war, Alexander suffered from shell shock and was plagued with epileptic seizures, which people often misinterpreted as a sign of drunkenness; this only exacerbated his drinking problem.​"
          From Me:

          His "save" when closing down the Yankees for the last three innings of Game 7 of the 1926 World Series was voted by Sports Writers, The 5th Most Dramatic Moment in Sport (first half of the 20th Century).



          P.S. Dempsey-Firpo was #1
          Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-19-2023, 11:24 AM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

            Add in 'Ol Pete (Grover Cleveland Alexander).

            An attempted bogus marriage that didn't seem to work, then mustered gassed in France, then wounded (partial lost of hearing), then epilepsy episodes, and then PTSD (shell shock).

            Crawled inside a bottle but still had a HOF career.

            1911-1930

            From Wikipedia:

            "Alexander spent most of the 1918 season in France as a sergeant with the 342nd Field Artillery Regiment, 89th Division. While he was serving in France, he was exposed to German mustard gas and a shell exploded near him, causing partial hearing loss and triggering the onset of epilepsy. Alexander returned to the United States in April 1919.

            Following his return from the war, Alexander suffered from shell shock and was plagued with epileptic seizures, which people often misinterpreted as a sign of drunkenness; this only exacerbated his drinking problem.​"
            From Me:

            His "save" when closing down the Yankees for the last three innings of Game 7 of the 1926 World Series was voted by Sports Writers, The 5th Most Dramatic Moment in Sport (first half of the 20th Century).



            P.S. Dempsey-Firpo was #1
            - - Deadball produced some of the grittiest of the greats.

            There was another great in that team of Cobb, Sissler, and Matthews, Branch Rickey who was still young then maybe. I'll check to make sure.

            Ted Williams lost 5 years in 3 separate deployments in WW2 and Korea. There's a famous pic of him simulating combat with his hands while John Glenn is drinking coffee.
            Willie Pep 229 Willie Pep 229 likes this.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
              Good for him





              ― Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket
              All Wars are boyish--

              Mellville

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              • #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Deadball produced some of the grittiest of the greats.

                There was another great in that team of Cobb, Sissler, and Matthews, Branch Rickey who was still young then maybe. I'll check to make sure.

                Ted Williams lost 5 years in 3 separate deployments in WW2 and Korea. There's a famous pic of him simulating combat with his hands while John Glenn is drinking coffee.
                - - Yeah, Rickey was part of that team.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                  - - Dempsey supported his mother and father, the reason he started out so poor.

                  American WW1 casualty rates dwarfed those of France, Britain, Germany, and Russia.
                  At nearly 65% the Australian casualty rate was the highest of the war.
                  The US had the lowest fatality rate of any participant.


                  First World War: fatalities per country 1914-1918 | Statista

                  www.britannica.com › event › World-War-IWorld War I - Casualties, Armistice, Legacy | Britannica


                  The heaviest loss of life for a single day occurred on July 1, 1916, during the Battle of the Somme, when the British Army suffered 57,470 casualties.
                  Russia 12,000,000 1,700,000 4,950,000
                  British Empire 8,904,467 908,371 2,090,212
                  France 8,410,000 1,357,800 4,266,000
                  Italy 5,615,000 650,000 947,000
                  ​​
                  Last edited by Ivich; 07-21-2023, 01:23 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                    I read the web page. From the Department of Defense (DOD) no less.
                    You are a trusting man. I'll go ahead and guarantee that.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                      At nearly 65% the Australian casualty rate was the highest of the war.
                      The US had the lowest fatality rate of any participant.


                      First World War: fatalities per country 1914-1918 | Statista

                      www.britannica.com › event › World-War-IWorld War I - Casualties, Armistice, Legacy | Britannica


                      The heaviest loss of life for a single day occurred on July 1, 1916, during the Battle of the Somme, when the British Army suffered 57,470 casualties.
                      Russia 12,000,000 1,700,000 4,950,000
                      British Empire 8,904,467 908,371 2,090,212
                      France 8,410,000 1,357,800 4,266,000
                      Italy 5,615,000 650,000 947,000
                      ​​
                      I was going to say that Russia was pretty high

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