The Heavyweight Title Defenders

[Willow The Wisp]

Fury's a lock for the HOF

Usyk's a lock

Wilder will probably get it, he's an American, who defended the belt 10x & was apart of the best trilogy in recent history

Joshua needs one more win. I'm not convinced he's in.

Everybody else is wack. Nobody else matters.

Boxing's Zhilei Zhang has recently supassed Basketball's Yang Shuyu and Formula 1 Driver Zhou Guanyu in popularity amongst the 1.4 billion Chinese.
Maybe it's just me n' them, but I'd say he matters.

I'm philosophical to a fault, but the way I read the Heavyweight top 10 (top 30 for that matter)...

1. These are the adult size fighters. Unlike all others, they require no weight cap to protect them from the big boys.

2. These are Boxers. They are allowed no shortcuts to subdue their opponents. No girly kicks, no bathhouse grappling, no chokes, no joint hypertensions, no knees, elbows, headbuts, biting, groin shots or eye gouging. They do it like it was honored in ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, Rome; and for that, they make the history, and the big money.

3. This is combat sports. There is no playground, no games. This is something beyond the other sports, and you can't play this.

Lol.

[Willow The Wisp]

I am only interested in those on your list who would whip Rocky Marciano and whip him good. Cut 'em out for me, will ya? Or would all of them?

The Brouckton Blouk-Bustaaa?
Shoot, man.

Champion -
Tyson Fury
1. Oleksandr Usyk
2. Deontay Wilder. Maybe
3. Anthony Joshua. Maybe
4. Andy Ruiz. Possible
5. Zhilei Zhang. Possible
6. Joe Joyce. Ahhh, possible
7. Luis Ortiz. Slightly possible

If that makes 8, that's a lot.

[Willow The Wisp]

Y'all too cool for school. I get that.

So Let me try one:

A) 2023........................B) 1986
Champion -
Tyson Fury...................Michael Spinks
1. Oleksandr Usyk.......Pinklon Thomas
2. Deontay Wilder........Larry Holmes
3. Anthony Joshua......Tim Witherspoon
4. Andy Ruiz.................Tony Tubbs
5. Zhilei Zhang.............Greg Page
6. Joe Joyce................Gerrie Coetzee
7. Luis Ortiz.................Trevor Berbick
8. Daniel Dubois..........Mike Weaver
9. Dillian Whyte............Carl Williams
10.Martin Bakole.........Michael Dokes

Just as Mike Tyson was preparing to take the division by storm and Homes was aging out of his long reign, the class of 1986 was still pretty good, and all but one had worn a silly title belt at some point.

How many head to head contests would YOU give this B column line up?

Og 11 fights I give em' 2 or 3. Not saying which 2 or 3.

Does somebody have another year to substantiate the idea that today's heavyweights aren't awesome????

[mattdonnellon]

I have B winning 5-3 with three i'm not confident of either way.7-9 are my swing fights.

[mattdonnellon]

And how about this lot, title vacant; 1991?

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Mike Tyson
3. Razor Ruddock
4. James (Buster) Douglas
5. Tim Witherspoon
6. Carl Williams
7. Francesco Damiani
8. Rid**** Bowe
9. Ray Mercer
10. George Foreman

[Rockin']

Larry Holmes would have shook Deontay Wilders world to it's core.

..................Rockin'

[Slugfester]

- - AJ retires tomorrow he's a lock HOF in 5 yrs. If he gets run over by a truck, he's in the next year.

Best fighter since the Ks retired by far and brought huge interest and $$$ to the division that died out after the Ks emasculated all the Americans and Brits.

And it's no surprize that Usyk and Loma to a lesser degree have picked up the Ukrainian mantle.

Blubber and Deyonce can go pound sand together on their own pacific atoll as far as I rank them.

The Hall of Fame is a joke. Joshua is a joke. Are you Joshua's bucket boy or something?

[Willow The Wisp]

The Hall of Fame is a joke. Joshua is a joke. Are you Joshua's bucket boy or something?

No.
The Hall off fame is not a joke to genuine fans and insiders. It is the highest pedestal that this sport provides to acknowledge greatness.

[Slugfester]

The Brouckton Blouk-Bustaaa?
Shoot, man.

Champion -
Tyson Fury
1. Oleksandr Usyk
2. Deontay Wilder. Maybe
3. Anthony Joshua. Maybe
4. Andy Ruiz. Possible
5. Zhilei Zhang. Possible
6. Joe Joyce. Ahhh, possible
7. Luis Ortiz. Slightly possible

If that makes 8, that's a lot.

Oh, man! You are sick, bra. Those last 3 you list are a joke. Fat Ortiz, a Chinaman nobody ever heard of and "I got beat up by a Chinaman,"Joyce.

[Willow The Wisp]

Oh, man! You are sick, bra. Those last 3 you list are a joke. Fat Ortiz, a Chinaman nobody ever heard of and "I got beat up by a Chinaman,"Joyce.

Oh, man! You are sick, bra. Those last 3 you list are a joke. Fat Ortiz, a Chinaman nobody ever heard of and "I got beat up by a Chinaman,"Joyce.


Lol! Now, we know you are better than that.
The guys wearing "Just Bleed" shirts don't do the boxing thing. "Too many rules".

A ripped build has as much to do with a fight as eye color. We see it in wrestling, MMA, Judo, FC Karate...Every combat sport. Besides, Ortiz is rock solid.
Zhang is the best Asian martial artist in history. Practically speaking, he'd put Bruce Lee, Choi Hong Hi, Yip Man, Gichin Funakoshi and Jigoro Kano through the wall; and anyone who doubts that is still reading comic books.