Who ranks higher on the pound for pound all time greats Toney or Holyfield ?

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Mid 50 s the Chinese were trying to crossbreed with apes to create stronger peasants.

Needless to say all the experimental subject were conscripts. Be interesting to read the final report.

Just wait until hackers start coming up with AI viruses. Advanced breeding ditched for a dog eat dog scramble for survival,

Wait a minute --> that legend was always an accusation against Stalin. When did the Chinese get involved?

I guess Russia has been exposed as weak so we need a new 'great fear' --> the Chinese.

Seems unfair to the ethics of propaganda. If you start a lie about soneone you can't just conveniently reapply it to a different foe.

Like science fiction writing, propaganda has to maintain a consistent internal logic or it doesn't work.

The Monkey-Men legend belongs to Russia, be respectful. Make-up something new for the Chinese.

[tokon]

He only failed one test, so test(s) plural would be the incorrect term to use.

But still a PED user none the less.

The vast majority of athletes are using some form of unnatural enhancements.

Yes, I know he only failed one test - and he pulled the old "prescribed for an injury" bs excuse.

However, as well that test actually proving he was a juicer there was other evidence that Toney was using steroids on a regular basis.

For example look at the footage of Toney sparring Danny Green - obviously juiced to the gills.

[QueensburyRules]

Wait a minute --> that legend was always an accusation against Stalin. When did the Chinese get involved?

I guess Russia has been exposed as weak so we need a new 'great fear' --> the Chinese.

Seems unfair to the ethics of propaganda. If you start a lie about soneone you can't just conveniently reapply it to a different foe.

Like science fiction writing, propaganda has to maintain a consistent internal logic or it doesn't work.

The Monkey-Men legend belongs to Russia, be respectful. Make-up something new for the Chinese.

- - Pep, I go back a ways to mid 50s when I read this as an AP release in the Houston Post.

Veracity of sources was not on my agenda then as I was only 4 yrs old.

[Slugfester]

Wait a minute --> that legend was always an accusation against Stalin. When did the Chinese get involved?

I guess Russia has been exposed as weak so we need a new 'great fear' --> the Chinese.

Seems unfair to the ethics of propaganda. If you start a lie about soneone you can't just conveniently reapply it to a different foe.

Like science fiction writing, propaganda has to maintain a consistent internal logic or it doesn't work.

The Monkey-Men legend belongs to Russia, be respectful. Make-up something new for the Chinese.

The monkey man theory was promoted heavily by John Birch Society official publications. This was long before China was even a concern.

[max baer]

The monkey man theory was promoted heavily by John Birch Society official publications. This was long before China was even a concern.

before china was even a concern??
they just want you to think that
the ccp was just playing a low profile game since 1896 to look poor and backward while stealing our secrets to steam engines and coal mining while acting like students here just learning how to trade tea, silks and ****es. how do you think chinese all cycle on bikes??
because they stole the blueprint of the original bike from england and then used it to get the people to work against the western world.
it is worth noting i stay up all night watching conspiracy docs and you guys need to wise up. we are through the looking glass now people!!
you need to open your minds man what about the third building that collapsed when it wasn't even hit yet it fell like a controlled demolition after tower 1 and 2 fell.
wake up people. i am part of the resistance. when the singlearity comes in 2042 we will all know the truth about china and the ufo connection. queeny is part of the chinese govt plan to undermine our boxing society and corrupt our society to weaken us so they can take over in the near future. i need sleep now after 4 hours of watching conspiracy docs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGKomk6NwmE
by the way the answer to the original question is holyfeild he was one of the greatest champs of all time...........................possibly he was part of the ccp network to undermine the west through sport!!!!!
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holyfeild is one of the greatest boxers ever. this i think was due to his professionalism in training and diet etc. he is way beyond toney and toney was way above 99% of the rest. holyfeild all the way for me.
ive heard since he was heavyweight many people saying he was ped user due to his physique but i like to think it was just hard work and diet that made him the body to envy not peds
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[max baer]

before china was even a concern??
they just want you to think that
the ccp was just playing a low profile game since 1896 to look poor and backward while stealing our secrets to steam engines and coal mining while acting like students here just learning how to trade tea, silks and ****es. how do you think chinese all cycle on bikes??
because they stole the blueprint of the original bike from england and then used it to get the people to work against the western world.
it is worth noting i stay up all night watching conspiracy docs and you guys need to wise up. we are through the looking glass now people!!
you need to open your minds man what about the third building that collapsed when it wasn't even hit yet it fell like a controlled demolition after tower 1 and 2 fell.
wake up people. i am part of the resistance. when the singlearity comes in 2042 we will all know the truth about china and the ufo connection. queeny is part of the chinese govt plan to undermine our boxing society and corrupt our society to weaken us so they can take over in the near future. i need sleep now after 4 hours of watching conspiracy docs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGKomk6NwmE
by the way the answer to the original question is holyfeild he was one of the greatest champs of all time...........................possibly he was part of the ccp network to undermine the west through sport!!!!!
aa1.jpg 1a.jpg
holyfeild is one of the greatest boxers ever. this i think was due to his professionalism in training and diet etc. he is way beyond toney and toney was way above 99% of the rest. holyfeild all the way for me.
ive heard since he was heavyweight many people saying he was ped user due to his physique but i like to think it was just hard work and diet that made him the body to envy not peds
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ha ha had you going there for a minute!!!