Who ranks higher on the pound for pound all time greats Toney or Holyfield ?

[WillieWild114]

Who ranks higher on the list for all time greats ?

[BattlingNelson]

I wonder what IronDanHamza thinks lol.

[IronDanHamza]

I wonder what IronDanHamza thinks lol.

Joking aside obviously it’s Holyfield by a gigantic margin.

[BattlingNelson]

Joking aside obviously it’s Holyfield by a gigantic margin.

Wow. I didn’t expect that.

[Ivich]

Who ranks higher on the list for all time greats ?

Evander for me, he achieved more imo.Toney had the talent,but not the dedication.

[IronDanHamza]

Evander for me, he achieved more imo.Toney had the talent,but not the dedication.

That’s not even arguable, surely? Their resumes are worlds apart.

Talent wise it’s probably Toney but I would say that’s arguable between the two.

[QueensburyRules]

- - TwoTon was chosen after Vander ducked WBA Roy's offer. Roy would've humiliated him. TwoTon beat him up and knocked him out for next to nothing.

[GhostofDempsey]

Holyfield has the more impressive resume of the two, despite Toney's win over an over the hill Holyfield. What troubles me about Holyfield was his obvious use of PEDs and how many of his wins may have been contributed to his steroid use. Not that Toney isn't suspect with his win over Ruiz and ultimately ruled an NC due to failed drug test, but I'd say PEDs were a part of Holyfield's regiment for most of his career. How much of an edge did that give him? We'll never know.

[WillieWild114]

Holyfield has the more impressive resume of the two, despite Toney's win over an over the hill Holyfield. What troubles me about Holyfield was his obvious use of PEDs and how many of his wins may have been contributed to his steroid use. Not that Toney isn't suspect with his win over Ruiz and ultimately ruled an NC due to failed drug test, but I'd say PEDs were a part of Holyfield's regiment for most of his career. How much of an edge did that give him? We'll never know.

Holyfield never tested positive for PEDs when tested.
Only when he was older great su****ions for his PED use was supported.

[GhostofDempsey]

Holyfield never tested positive for PEDs when tested.
Only when he was older great su****ions for his PED use was supported.

I know, but the "Evan Fields" controversy convinces me he was juicing for most if not all of his HW career. His physique was also very unnatural looking. He also had that heart issue for a spell which may or may not have been contributed to steroids.