Jack Johnson v GunBoat Smith 1912?

[Dr. Z]

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Yes I can confirm it was a spar,Yes I can confirm Johnson finished the 4 rds.Yes I can confirm Johnson sparred with 3 more men afterwards.Its all in Vol 2 of Pollack Johnson bio.
What you have is ONE report.I could produce 3 other ringside reports of the spar that do not even mention a KD,in fact I did just that this very week!
I also named the sparring partners and how many rounds they worked with Johnson.
But you continue with your hate campaign,it damages nobody but yourself!

What does that prove? Numerous papers say Johnson manger halted the action. He was down and dazed, Pollack doesn't dispute that! You should quit mentioned his and other names that are banned in this forum. You hate the truth on Johnson, who ducked his best competition as champion, beat on women and the sick ( Some man he was ) , and wanted to be the only black heavyweight champion. Do you dispute those facts?

[Ivich]

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What does that prove? Numerous papers say Johnson manger halted the action. He was down and dazed, Pollack doesn't dispute that! You should quit mentioned his and other names that are banned in this forum. You hate the truth on Johnson, who ducked his best competition as champion, beat on women and the sick ( Some man he was ) , and wanted to be the only black heavyweight champion. Do you dispute those facts?

I proves this
1.It was not a match it was a spar.
2.Johnson was not "knocked silly",because he finished the spar and sparred with a further 3 sparring partners afterwards.
3.Pollack provides several news reports of the spar and only 1 reports it as a genuine KD.
4.You have not read Pollack's 2 volumes on Johnson ,so you don't have a clue what his opinion on the matter is
5. Numerous newspapers do NOT say Johnson was knocked down or dazed. Produce 3 and not AP reports, reports from journalists who were actually present.

When I made this thread I asked how Smith would do against Johnson in1912 ?

Which was Smith's best year as far as results go,I didn't ask for a litany of the supposed transgressions you say he committed.

So go peddle your hate elsewhere you sad , sorry individual.

[travestyny]

What does that prove? Numerous papers say Johnson manger halted the action. He was down and dazed, Pollack doesn't dispute that! You should quit mentioned his and other names that are banned in this forum. You hate the truth on Johnson, who ducked his best competition as champion, beat on women and the sick ( Some man he was ) , and wanted to be the only black heavyweight champion. Do you dispute those facts?

Gunboat Smith didn't say Johnson was down and dazed. He said he was down a few seconds. Isn't that right?

[Dr. Z]

Gunboat Smith didn't say Johnson was down and dazed. He said he was down a few seconds. Isn't that right?

Johnson wasn't asked. And he might not remember it. I could post the news repot of the event, but you will not comprehend it.

Where did Johnson say he was only down for a few seconds? Johnson himself in quotes please. And Johnson, who was down and dazed manger had to save him for further action.

[Ivich]

Gunboat Smith didn't say Johnson was down and dazed. He said he was down a few seconds. Isn't that right?

He says he knocked Johnson halfway through the ropes,he never at any time said he floored him or dazed him.

Nor did he say their spar was stopped for the day it wasn't.
Johnson went 2 rounds with BobArmstrong after the 4 rds with Smith had finished.Then he took on Dave Mills
This clown has been peddling this story for years implying it was a real fight and he now says it was an execution bout!
Nobody takes this warped idiot seriously.

[Ivich]

Johnson wasn't asked. And he might not remember it. I could post the news repot of the event, but you will not comprehend it.

Where did Johnson say he was only down for a few seconds? Johnson himself in quotes please. And Johnson, who was down and dazed manger had to save him for further action.

Where are the quotes from Johnson or Smith that Johnson was down and dazed?

YOU are making these claims its up to YOU to back them up with PROOF!

[travestyny]

Johnson wasn't asked. And he might not remember it. I could post the news repot of the event, but you will not comprehend it.

Where did Johnson say he was only down for a few seconds? Johnson himself in quotes please. And Johnson, who was down and dazed manger had to save him for further action.

Dude, you are so drunk in your hate that you can't understand simple English.

GUNBOAT SMITH didn't say Johnson was dazed. GUNBOAT SMITH said Johnson was down for a few seconds.

Jesus Christ.

[travestyny]

He says he knocked Johnson halfway through the ropes,he never at any time said he floored him or dazed him.

Nor did he say their spar was stopped for the day it wasn't.
Johnson went 2 rounds with BobArmstrong after the 4 rds with Smith had finished.Then he took on Dave Mills
This clown has been peddling this story for years implying it was a real fight and he now says it was an execution bout!
Nobody takes this warped idiot seriously.

You're right. It's tiring. No matter how many times he is corrected, he keeps coming back for more. How could he hate one man so much? Especially one who has been dead for so long.

[Ivich]

You're right. It's tiring. No matter how many times he is corrected, he keeps coming back for more. How could he hate one man so much? Especially one who has been dead for so long.

It's the reason he got a life ban from ESB, he has a phobic hatred of Johnson ,a man who had been dead since1946!

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Gunboat smith, a decent contender with a few good wins. Jack Johnson one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Smith has zero chance against Johnson.