Jack Johnson v GunBoat Smith 1912?

[Ivich]

Who wins this and how?

[Rockybigblower]

I'd rather see Gunboat Smith vs Popeye.

[Dr. Z]

I'd rather see Gunboat Smith vs Popeye.

With our without the Spinach? Such a thing can swing a match.

We know who won their 1909 exhibition match. Smith knocked Johnson's down and made him see stars to the point where Johnson's manager had to halt the match. Smith was green where this happened. In 1912 he would a lot better and more experienced where Johnson would fatter, slower, and older.

Smith via TKO. Check who he beat in 1912 and 1913. That's why Johnson avoided him.

[travestyny]

With our without the Spinach? Such a thing can swing a match.

We know who won their 1909 exhibition match. Smith knocked Johnson's down and made him see stars to the point where Johnson's manager had to halt the match. Smith was green where this happened. In 1912 he would a lot better and more experienced where Johnson would fatter, slower, and older.

Smith via TKO. Check who he beat in 1912 and 1913. That's why Johnson avoided him.

Exhibition match?

Before you were calling it an "execution match" or something like that.


Can you confirm that it was only sparring and Johnson was down for no longer than 4 seconds...? Sparring.

[Ivich]

With our without the Spinach? Such a thing can swing a match.

We know who won their 1909 exhibition match. Smith knocked Johnson's down and made him see stars to the point where Johnson's manager had to halt the match. Smith was green where this happened. In 1912 he would a lot better and more experienced where Johnson would fatter, slower, and older.

Smith via TKO. Check who he beat in 1912 and 1913. That's why Johnson avoided him.

It was a spar,not a match and Johnson finished the 4 rounds with Smith and sparred with 3 more partners that afternoon .I have the reports of it and the sparring partners involved

I picked Smith's best year on purpose.

[Ivich]

Exhibition match?

Before you were calling it an "execution match" or something like that.


Can you confirm that it was only sparring and Johnson was down for no longer than 4 seconds...? Sparring.

Johnson finished the 4 rds with Smith and sparred with3 other boxers afterwards.
Source Jack Johnson vol 2 Adam Pollack.

[Dr. Z]

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Can you confirm that it was only sparring and Johnson was down for no longer than 4 seconds/QUOTE]

I posted the match many times. You pick and choose what you like. He was down and dazed. The match was halted. Got it?

[travestyny]

I posted the match many times. You pick and choose what you like. He was down and dazed. The match was halted. Got it?

How am I picking and choosing? I'm asking if it was a Execution match, An Exhibition, or a sparring session.

I don't remember "down and dazed." I remember Smith saying he was down a few seconds.

[Ivich]

[QUOTE=Dr. Z;n31909255]

Can you confirm that it was only sparring and Johnson was down for no longer than 4 seconds/QUOTE]

I posted the match many times. You pick and choose what you like. He was down and dazed. The match was halted. Got it?

Yes I can confirm it was a spar,Yes I can confirm Johnson finished the 4 rds.Yes I can confirm Johnson sparred with 3 more men afterwards.Its all in Vol 2 of Pollack Johnson bio.
What you have is ONE report.I could produce 3 other ringside reports of the spar that do not even mention a KD,in fact I did just that this very week!
I also named the sparring partners and how many rounds they worked with Johnson.
But you continue with your hate campaign,it damages nobody but yourself!

[Ivich]

[QUOTE=Dr. Z;n31909255]

Can you confirm that it was only sparring and Johnson was down for no longer than 4 seconds/QUOTE]

I posted the match many times. You pick and choose what you like. He was down and dazed. The match was halted. Got it?

No match, a sparring session.Klompton destroyed you on this on ESB.but, as is your modus operandi you compulsively repeat it at suitable intervals.
You carry on on your poisonous little way,nobody with a lick of sense takes any notice of you anyway. lol