The clown prince of boxing plying his trade (Max Baer vs Max Schmeling)

[billeau2]

Talk about a hellacious punch. Max's right was a bomb. This is a great fight between the two "Maxes" at light heavyweight.

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Many people maintained, back in that era, that Baer had the hardest right in boxing. Some still throw his name in the ring.

[Willie Pep 229]

I thought Baer used way too many back-handed illegal blows. An agressive referee today would have deducted multiple points, if not a DQ.

[max baer]

Talk about a hellacious punch. Max's right was a bomb. This is a great fight between the two "Maxes" at light heavyweight.

https://********/qs1VaA0SvZM

Many people maintained, back in that era, that Baer had the hardest right in boxing. Some still throw his name in the ring.

i am a big fan of max baer. this fight meant a lot for him as the german was being touted as hitler's man and baer wore a ***ish star of david on his shorts.
in the film cinderella man which i have not seen baer was portrayed unfairly i read. he was very charismatic and lifted the mood. like a fury of the past. they say after a man died he never was the same. he died young of a heart attack and even joked to the medic about dying his last words were joking. great man. ***ish men are so often incredibly witty. when him and carnera fell he said to him "last one up is a sissy!"
“Oh God, here I go.” – Max Baer, American boxer, 1959

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXXklL3zcQ&t=33s

he did fight dirty willie but my view is that boxing is a tough guy sport and you gotta take some of that if you wanna win like in rugby they rough each other up all part of the contest.

Baer's last words were "I'd rather see a People Doctor" after the kid asked him if he should get him the "House Doctor".....

The film cinderella man made him seem nasty but i grew up seeing how docs and films could portray iron mike as nasty and i knew he wasn't at all so when i got older i never take bios and movies at all till i have researched. max baer was a kind funny witty man.
https://www.606v2.com/t70689-max-bae...lowned-it-away this is a link to learn more about him. https://www.606v2.com/t14506-was-max-baer-a-nice-guy

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[billeau2]

i am a big fan of max baer. this fight meant a lot for him as the german was being touted as hitler's man and baer wore a ***ish star of david on his shorts.
in the film cinderella man which i have not seen baer was portrayed unfairly i read. he was very charismatic and lifted the mood. like a fury of the past. they say after a man died he never was the same. he died young of a heart attack and even joked to the medic about dying his last words were joking. great man. ***ish men are so often incredibly witty. when him and carnera fell he said to him "last one up is a sissy!"
“Oh God, here I go.” – Max Baer, American boxer, 1959

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXXklL3zcQ&t=33s

he did fight dirty willie but my view is that boxing is a tough guy sport and you gotta take some of that if you wanna win like in rugby they rough each other up all part of the contest.

Baer's last words were "I'd rather see a People Doctor" after the kid asked him if he should get him the "House Doctor".....

The film cinderella man made him seem nasty but i grew up seeing how docs and films could portray iron mike as nasty and i knew he wasn't at all so when i got older i never take bios and movies at all till i have researched. max baer was a kind funny witty man.
https://www.606v2.com/t70689-max-bae...lowned-it-away this is a link to learn more about him. https://www.606v2.com/t14506-was-max-baer-a-nice-guy

max.jpg

You know nathan... Hollywood takes no prisoners and has to usually break the characters down according to the most base human traits. It was indeed very unfair to Baer. It was also a hell of a movie lol. But yes, Max had to be the villian and that was not historically correct. Max actually stopped punching like a demon when he learned of the misfortunes his two opponents had, much like Ezzard Charles who some allege became a "boxer" more than a puncher when he harmed another man in the ring.

Braddock was an insane underdog at the time... but not so much to baer (as portrayed) but rather to his comeback after being considered shot. An amazing story of how technical know how can change a future! Braddock literally became a two handed fighter out of necessity and it did it for him. Baer was just the icing on the cake.

[billeau2]

I thought Baer used way too many back-handed illegal blows. An agressive referee today would have deducted multiple points, if not a DQ.

Whats da-matta wid***!! Ya never seen the patented Baer backhand? Listen bub, if they allow it in Tennis, why not boxing? You must be one of em guys who wants to shut down my idea for full contact golf! "Caddie hand me a Cudgel for hole #9."

[max baer]

You know nathan... Hollywood takes no prisoners and has to usually break the characters down according to the most base human traits. It was indeed very unfair to Baer. It was also a hell of a movie lol. But yes, Max had to be the villian and that was not historically correct. Max actually stopped punching like a demon when he learned of the misfortunes his two opponents had, much like Ezzard Charles who some allege became a "boxer" more than a puncher when he harmed another man in the ring.

Braddock was an insane underdog at the time... but not so much to baer (as portrayed) but rather to his comeback after being considered shot. An amazing story of how technical know how can change a future! Braddock literally became a two handed fighter out of necessity and it did it for him. Baer was just the icing on the cake.

you are right. i am going to watch the film tonight if it is on netflix as i am now eager to see it for myself.

[billeau2]

I thought Baer used way too many back-handed illegal blows. An agressive referee today would have deducted multiple points, if not a DQ.

Being serious for a moment about this strike. Baer does that a lot and I can practically divine the thought process going on in the ref's head, imagining that when Baer lands the blow with the front of the glove, which he does on many occasions, he gets a pass... It is not a particularly powerful blow, and it looks silly. But yes, he should have been warned about it.

The problem comes when we think it through... In boxing circular and straight punches are allowed, and one might surmize that the criteria for legality would be the part of the glove that makes contact. In other words: why, logically, would a backfist blow be illegal? I cannot think of a reason.

[Willie Pep 229]

Being serious for a moment about this strike. Baer does that a lot and I can practically divine the thought process going on in the ref's head, imagining that when Baer lands the blow with the front of the glove, which he does on many occasions, he gets a pass... It is not a particularly powerful blow, and it looks silly. But yes, he should have been warned about it.

The problem comes when we think it through... In boxing circular and straight punches are allowed, and one might surmize that the criteria for legality would be the part of the glove that makes contact. In other words: why, logically, would a backfist blow be illegal? I cannot think of a reason.

Remember when Toney (Jones fight) tried to spin like a ballerina and hit Jones? He missed and it made Jones' smile and go wide eyed. (Ali like)

Well I am not certain of my interpretation of the rules, but I think spinning is also illegal and I can't see why that would be either.

I can see in 'boxing' as a martial art you might consider a black handed blow improper but in a prize fight why not!

So long, as you say, the correct part of the glove makes contact.

I m not sure!

[billeau2]

Remember when Toney (Jones fight) tried to spin like a ballerina and hit Jones? He missed and it made Jones' smile and go wide eyed. (Ali like)

Well I am not certain of my interpretation of the rules, but I think spinning is also illegal and I can't see why that would be either.

I can see in 'boxing' as a martial art you might consider a black handed blow improper but in a prize fight why not!

So long, as you say, the correct part of the glove makes contact.

I m not sure!

Its the same thing with spinning. We know it is illegal, but why? I mean I agree, I just wish I could justify why. One would have to distinguish "spinning" as a general movement and "spinning" while striking a blow... but again why?

Lets try to comparitively reason it out: In football the ground Cannot cause a fumble. One can see some reasons for this rule like, some deacon Jones crazy mf picking up a running back and slamming them head first to dislodge the ball. In baseball the notion of the balk. It gives the pitcher a big advantage when he can control the ball past starting his initial movement forwards, or otherwise.

Boxing has grey areas like tying a man up... considered a foul at times and a necessity at times. Certainly rabbit punches and such are also outlawed for a reason.

[max baer]

Talk about a hellacious punch. Max's right was a bomb. This is a great fight between the two "Maxes" at light heavyweight.

https://********/qs1VaA0SvZM

Many people maintained, back in that era, that Baer had the hardest right in boxing. Some still throw his name in the ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl6ER5pwOkU this is a great doc about the cinderella man and mad maxi. hope you enjoy it like i have.