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[Ivich]

- - Well, it obviously led you to here and now tooting your Ollie Stoned Hollywood Tabloid History like a Whoopee Cushion.

MacArthur was never consulted or knew about Truman's controversial decision to drop the NUKE, thus hearing it on the radio like every other civilian. However, Mac had driven Mao out of Korea into a poor tactical position that he could've wiped out conventionally but for Harry's fragile UN alliances that would melt if Mao was wiped out.

The idea was to create the DMZ at the Chinese border, not dividing Korea that has led to blistering infectious flareups to this day. 1whoopee%2Bcushion.jpg

"MacArthur was never consulted or knew about Truman's controversial decision to drop the NUKE, thus hearing it on the radio like every other civilian" Oh Dear!
McArthur was not a "civilian"when the bomb was dropped,he was the Supreme Commander of the US Forces in the Far East and accepted the Japanese surrender.
Are you seriously saying as the Commander in that theatre of war he was unaware ,in your words "like any other civilian ,that Truman was going to drop the bomb ?
McArthur did not become a civilian until April11 th1951 when Truman fired him for continued direct disobedience.
McArthur wanted to bomb China!

April11th 1951

MacArthur was recalled to active duty in 1941 as commander of United States Army Forces in the Far East. A series of disasters followed, starting with the destruction of his air forces on 8 December 1941 and the Japanese invasion of the Philippines. MacArthur's forces were soon compelled to withdraw to Bataan, where they held out until May 1942. In March 1942, MacArthur, his family and his staff left nearby Corregidor Island in PT boats and escaped to Australia, where MacArthur became supreme commander, Southwest Pacific Area. Upon his arrival, MacArthur gave a speech in which he promised "I shall return" to the Philippines. After more than two years of fighting, he fulfilled that promise. For his defense of the Philippines, MacArthur was awarded the Medal of Honor. He officially accepted the surrender of Japan on 2 September 1945 aboard the USS Missouri, which was anchored in Tokyo Bay, and he oversaw the occupation of Japan from 1945 to 1951. As the effective ruler of Japan, he oversaw sweeping economic, political and social changes. He led the United Nations Command in the Korean War with initial success; however, the invasion of North Korea provoked the Chinese, causing a series of major defeats. MacArthur was contentiously removed from command by President Harry S. Truman on 11 April 1951.
The Firing of MacArthur Background


In 1945, the scars of World War II across the world were still fresh. The fear of having to engage in another world war was very real. A mere two years after the end of WWII, the Cold War began. The United Nations, which was formed to provide a forum to prevent future wars, included the membership of the Soviet Union, the United States, the United Kingdom and 57 other countries. The US adopted a firm stance to contain the spread of communism, which was being aggressively promoted by the USSR.

The Korean War began when the North Korean People’s Army (NKPA) crossed the 38th parallel into South Korea. Adhering to its policy of containment, the United States could not ignore the threat of communism in Asia, but neither the president nor the public wanted a long, drawn out war. President Truman hand selected General Douglas MacArthur to lead the U.S. troops in South Korea. MacArthur arrived at his post a World War II hero, having successfully led multiple troops through the war. Following his victories in WWII he had become the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers in Japan. MacArthur was revered and highly praised in the United States.

The general assured the president that the Korean War would be short-lived and that the American troops would be home by Christmas. MacArthur was initially successful in driving back the North Korean forces over the 38th parallel. He made a controversial move, however, when he continued to push the North Koreans further north and suggested bombing cities in China that were thought to be aiding the North Korean troops. In pushing for a larger conflict, MacArthur downplayed the risk of inciting a massive war in Asia.

President Truman’s main concern was saving as many lives as possible, even if that meant signing a ceasefire along the 38th parallel. General MacArthur did not think a ceasefire was an appropriate solution. The two men clashed. For Truman, the war represented an opportunity to stop the spread of communism into South Korea. For MacArthur, the war was an opportunity to liberate the North from communist control, and aggressive action was required.

MacArthur thwarted Truman’s attempt to negotiate a ceasefire when the general ordered his troops to invade North Korea and push the NKPA up past the 38th parallel. This was not the first time the general had ignored direct orders from his Commander in Chief. On April 11, 1951, President Truman officially relieved Douglas MacArthur of his command. Word of his firing spread quickly, and the American public found the news upsetting. Truman felt that his decision was just because MacArthur had overstepped his authority, defied direct orders from his superior and interfered with Truman’s hope of ending the Korean War quickly.

PS.You can get off your cushion now! lol

[QueensburyRules]

"MacArthur was never consulted or knew about Truman's controversial decision to drop the NUKE, thus hearing it on the radio like every other civilian" Oh Dear!
McArthur was not a "civilian"when the bomb was dropped,he was the Supreme Commander of the US Forces in the Far East and accepted the Japanese surrender.
Are you seriously saying as the Commander in that theatre of war he was unaware ,in your words "like any other civilian ,that Truman was going to drop the bomb ?
McArhtur did not become a civilian until April11 th1951 when Truman fired him for continued direct disobedience.
McArthur wanted to bomb China!

April11th 1951

MacArthur was recalled to active duty in 1941 as commander of United States Army Forces in the Far East. A series of disasters followed, starting with the destruction of his air forces on 8 December 1941 and the Japanese invasion of the Philippines. MacArthur's forces were soon compelled to withdraw to Bataan, where they held out until May 1942. In March 1942, MacArthur, his family and his staff left nearby Corregidor Island in PT boats and escaped to Australia, where MacArthur became supreme commander, Southwest Pacific Area. Upon his arrival, MacArthur gave a speech in which he promised "I shall return" to the Philippines. After more than two years of fighting, he fulfilled that promise. For his defense of the Philippines, MacArthur was awarded the Medal of Honor. He officially accepted the surrender of Japan on 2 September 1945 aboard the USS Missouri, which was anchored in Tokyo Bay, and he oversaw the occupation of Japan from 1945 to 1951. As the effective ruler of Japan, he oversaw sweeping economic, political and social changes. He led the United Nations Command in the Korean War with initial success; however, the invasion of North Korea provoked the Chinese, causing a series of major defeats. MacArthur was contentiously removed from command by President Harry S. Truman on 11 April 1951.
The Firing of MacArthur Background


In 1945, the scars of World War II across the world were still fresh. The fear of having to engage in another world war was very real. A mere two years after the end of WWII, the Cold War began. The United Nations, which was formed to provide a forum to prevent future wars, included the membership of the Soviet Union, the United States, the United Kingdom and 57 other countries. The US adopted a firm stance to contain the spread of communism, which was being aggressively promoted by the USSR.

The Korean War began when the North Korean People’s Army (NKPA) crossed the 38th parallel into South Korea. Adhering to its policy of containment, the United States could not ignore the threat of communism in Asia, but neither the president nor the public wanted a long, drawn out war. President Truman hand selected General Douglas MacArthur to lead the U.S. troops in South Korea. MacArthur arrived at his post a World War II hero, having successfully led multiple troops through the war. Following his victories in WWII he had become the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers in Japan. MacArthur was revered and highly praised in the United States.

The general assured the president that the Korean War would be short-lived and that the American troops would be home by Christmas. MacArthur was initially successful in driving back the North Korean forces over the 38th parallel. He made a controversial move, however, when he continued to push the North Koreans further north and suggested bombing cities in China that were thought to be aiding the North Korean troops. In pushing for a larger conflict, MacArthur downplayed the risk of inciting a massive war in Asia.

President Truman’s main concern was saving as many lives as possible, even if that meant signing a ceasefire along the 38th parallel. General MacArthur did not think a ceasefire was an appropriate solution. The two men clashed. For Truman, the war represented an opportunity to stop the spread of communism into South Korea. For MacArthur, the war was an opportunity to liberate the North from communist control, and aggressive action was required.

MacArthur thwarted Truman’s attempt to negotiate a ceasefire when the general ordered his troops to invade North Korea and push the NKPA up past the 38th parallel. This was not the first time the general had ignored direct orders from his Commander in Chief. On April 11, 1951, President Truman officially relieved Douglas MacArthur of his command. Word of his firing spread quickly, and the American public found the news upsetting. Truman felt that his decision was just because MacArthur had overstepped his authority, defied direct orders from his superior and interfered with Truman’s hope of ending the Korean War quickly.

- - Oh, the hue and the cry of Ollie Stoned dissection of history...priceless...

Neither Mac nor Laurel nor Ollie were consulted on the Tokyo Atomic Bomb drop, and at best only dimly aware of the pie in the sky project that was incredibly tightly held.

[Ivich]

- - Oh, the hue and the cry of Ollie Stoned dissection of history...priceless...

Neither Mac nor Laurel nor Ollie were consulted on the Tokyo Atomic Bomb drop, and at best only dimly aware of the pie in the sky project that was incredibly tightly held.

McArthur was the Supreme Commander in that theatre of war and when Japan surrendered he effectively became the ruler of Japan.
Oliver Stone served in the infantry in Viet Nam,he made an acclaimed documentary series about the conflict.
Your childish little sallies will not alter the fact that you have once again been shown to be sadly lacking in knowledge about a subject.
No amount of infantile quips from you like, "yer welcome",and"priceless," will disguise that!
Friendly advice to my little puppy,take some time to read a few books about subjects you feel inclined to talk about, do that and who knows we might start taking you seriously instead of regarding you as just a comic interlude. Chin Up. You have potential!

[QueensburyRules]

McArthur was the Supreme Commander in that theatre of war and when Japan surrendered he effectively became the ruler of Japan.
Oliver Stone served in the infantry in Viet Nam,he made an acclaimed documentary series about the conflict.
Your childish little sallies will not alter the fact that you have once again been shown to be sadly lacking in knowledge about a subject.
No amount of infantile quips from you like, "yer welcome",and"priceless," will disguise that!
Friendly advice to my little puppy,take some time to read a few books about subjects you feel inclined to talk about, do that and who knows we might start taking you seriously instead of regarding you as just a comic interlude. Chin Up. You have potential!

- - Mac first learned about the Manhatton project in late July, and only that the project had failed to produce fission. Early August a week later on a Sunday afternoon, he received by dispatch the bomb would be dropped early Monday, and he received that news by instantaneous radio like much of the news he used in his war preparations.

As mentioned, he was only dimly aware of the project only a week before the bomb drop. He was never consulted like many of the wet behind the ears new Prez Truman's committee decisions, and point in fact was probably the most poorly provisioned in General in American history per the land and sea areas he was responsible for. When Italy fell, Roosevelt's 1st shipment of American provisions to Italy was more than Mac received for the entire year for an impoverished perspective.

I suggest you stick with Henry the 8th and Monty and Laurel and Ollie for your English history that I would seldom dare to contest. You posting oodles of content completely unrelated to the main point of contention is intellectually worrisome like there may be some underlaying health issue at play........hands up and protect your noggin at all times...
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[Ivich]

- - Mac first learned about the Manhatton project in late July, and only that the project had failed to produce fission. Early August a week later on a Sunday afternoon, he received by dispatch the bomb would be dropped early Monday, and he received that news by instantaneous radio like much of the news he used in his war preparations.

As mentioned, he was only dimly aware of the project only a week before the bomb drop. He was never consulted like many of the wet behind the ears new Prez Truman's committee decisions, and point in fact was probably the most poorly provisioned in General in American history per the land and sea areas he was responsible for. When Italy fell, Roosevelt's 1st shipment of American provisions to Italy was more than Mac received for the entire year for an impoverished perspective.

I suggest you stick with Henry the 8th and Monty and Laurel and Ollie for your English history that I would seldom dare to contest. You posting oodles of content completely unrelated to the main point of contention is intellectually worrisome like there may be some underlaying health issue at play........hands up and protect your noggin at all times... f49f4f6d1bc45d8d04d5b7d7e7069ae5.jpg

And now you are going to produce primary sourced proof of your claims?
You claimed McArthur learned about the bomb when it was dropped.
"MacArthur was never consulted or knew about Truman's controversial decision to drop the NUKE, thus hearing it on the radio like every other civilian"
He wasnt consulted as to its use,why would he be?
But he was informed it was going to be dropped before it actually was so stop with the semantics!

• When first informed about their imminent use only days before Hiroshima, MacArthur responded with a lecture on the future of atomic warfare and even after Hiroshima strongly recommended that the invasion go forward. Nimitz, from whose jurisdiction the atomic strikes would be launched, was notified in early 1945.

NB until FDR's death and his taking office as President then Vice President Truman was entirely ignorant of the
Manhattan Project
ps Manhattan, which is a great place, that I thoroughly enjoyed , has no O in its spelling.

[QueensburyRules]

And now you are going to produce primary sourced proof of your claims?
You claimed McArthur learned about the bomb when it was dropped.
"MacArthur was never consulted or knew about Truman's controversial decision to drop the NUKE, thus hearing it on the radio like every other civilian"
He wasnt consulted as to its use,why would he be?
But he was informed it was going to be dropped before it actually was so stop with the semantics!

• When first informed about their imminent use only days before Hiroshima, MacArthur responded with a lecture on the future of atomic warfare and even after Hiroshima strongly recommended that the invasion go forward. Nimitz, from whose jurisdiction the atomic strikes would be launched, was notified in early 1945.

NB until FDR's death and his taking office as President then Vice President Truman was entirely ignorant of the
Manhattan Project
ps Manhattan, which is a great place, that I thoroughly enjoyed , has no O in its spelling.

- - And you clearly have a hOle in your proto simian nOggin.

Hiroshima was in August of 1945, and Nimitz was first notified along with Mac about the failed ManhattON project in late July.

Pay attention, pretend you really Einstein- Neither were consulted about the Abomb. MY source is William Manchester's bio in 1978, published AFTER his epic Autobiography of JFK at the behest of the Kennedy Family, the BIBLE of what has become the JFK Cottage industry.

However, had Truman and his cadre of Ivy Leaguer know it alls, who felt more than a little dwarfed in the presence of an iconic Genius that was Mac, paid attention to the prolific signals the Emperor was giving Mac who passed them on with context, the probability was Hiroshima was not needed for surrender the yields an entirely different history where the ABomBination is an obscure side note. In short, it never would've happened under Roosevelt who's biggest flaw was not keeping Harry in training in case Roosevelt faltered.

Now, Git thee to the closest Monkery and study up son. That ain't a whoopee cushion polluting our environment.

[Ivich]

- - And you clearly have a hOle in your proto simian nOggin.

Hiroshima was in August of 1945, and Nimitz was first notified along with Mac about the failed ManhattON project in late July.

Pay attention, pretend you really Einstein- Neither were consulted about the Abomb. MY source is William Manchester's bio in 1978, published AFTER his epic Autobiography of JFK at the behest of the Kennedy Family, the BIBLE of what has become the JFK Cottage industry.

However, had Truman and his cadre of Ivy Leaguer know it alls, who felt more than a little dwarfed in the presence of an iconic Genius that was Mac, paid attention to the prolific signals the Emperor was giving Mac who passed them on with context, the probability was Hiroshima was not needed for surrender the yields an entirely different history where the ABomBination is an obscure side note. In short, it never would've happened under Roosevelt who's biggest flaw was not keeping Harry in training in case Roosevelt faltered.

Now, Git thee to the closest Monkery and study up son. That ain't a whoopee cushion polluting our environment.

I never said either was consulted about the Manhattan Project .
I said MacArthur did not learn about the exploding of the Hiroshima bomb on the radio with the rest of civilians as you stated,he was told of its imminent use some days before.
Strike three ,you're out!

"Nimitz, from whose jurisdiction the atomic strikes would be launched, was notified in early 1945."
NB Best not get into a pissing contest if you have to sit down to urinate!

I give you this much,you're a lot more rewarding to debate with than Dr Zenophobia, or that other self appointed know all Shawn Kontempt

[QueensburyRules]

I never said either was consulted about the Manhattan Project .
I said MacArthur did not learn about the exploding of the Hiroshima bomb on the radio with the rest of civilians as you stated,he was told of its imminent use some days before.
Strike three ,you're out!

"Nimitz, from whose jurisdiction the atomic strikes would be launched, was notified in early 1945."
NB Best not get into a pissing contest if you have to sit down to urinate!

I give you this much,you're a lot more rewarding to debate with than Dr Zenophobia, or that other self appointed know all Shawn Kontempt

- - You flattering yourself while hoist on your French Fried petard, priceless.

Might've got 20% of the folks at the ManhattOn Project at best to guarantee nuclear fission in the Hiroshima moment. Nimitz and Mac had zero knowledge about the project other than it existed days before.

Mac had 12 hours notice of the bombing after being told the ManhattOn Project had thus far been a failure. He listened on the radio that AM to find out it exploded and harvest the details for distribution...FACT...now don't you have some imported snails in your garden to go hunt down to go with your French Fries...

[Willie Pep 229]

MacAthur certainly new about the new 'gizmo' and he hated that it was going to make him obsolete.

But the man was already dinosaur by the beginning of World War II.

His failure on the Philippines two days after Peral, where he let his airforce get caught on the ground and destroyed, should alone, been enought to convince FDR that the man was a 19th Century commander and no longer of use.

But FDR felt he needed heroes and that's what MacArhur was best at, playing hero.

"Yes, I did serve under MacAthur, I studied dramatics under him." D. Eisenhower.

[Ivich]

- - You flattering yourself while hoist on your French Fried petard, priceless.

Might've got 20% of the folks at the ManhattOn Project at best to guarantee nuclear fission in the Hiroshima moment. Nimitz and Mac had zero knowledge about the project other than it existed days before.

Mac had 12 hours notice of the bombing after being told the ManhattOn Project had thus far been a failure. He listened on the radio that AM to find out it exploded and harvest the details for distribution...FACT...now don't you have some imported snails in your garden to go hunt down to go with your French Fries...

"Nimitz, from whose jurisdiction the atomic strikes would be launched, was notified in early 1945."

You made a statement I proved it wrong.So what happens next?
You revert to type and begin making asinine personal comments.
Predictable,puerile , pathetic , churlish,childish ,chicken**** and absolutely .totally valueless!

Just like 99% of your content.

Shawn Kontempt's gone so ,one down, two to go. Dr Zenophobia and Queensbury Fool.

"Will you, won't you, will you , won't you, won't you join the dance?"