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  • Willie Pep 229
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    #41
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - This is a good question for old school Same Day AM weighins, say 9-10 AM.

    Headliner might go on say 11PM, so a slim guy Robby @158 might weigh 163-164 come fight night, more or less his normal street weight. Jake near had to saw off body parts to make 160, so he might go on a Duran style Binge post fight with his Mama's Italian spread, rolling into a nap at 170. Then say 5PM takes a laxative purge, and settles in for light breakfast fare, say half lb of ground round with a couple of eggs and hash browns to sit on 5 hrs before the fight, likely around 168-169.

    Dunno why Duran didn't take a laxative purge after his post weighin 2 porterhouse steak dinners before his Leonard rematch, but in hindsight, sure he knows he blew that opportunity.

    I believe laxatives are banned today, but I don't know the extent since many plants exist that could do the job as good as a drugstore laxative.
    Are not laxatives banned as a (dangerous) weight reducing aid? If he was already weighted in why would they ban laxatives?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      Are not laxatives banned as a (dangerous) weight reducing aid? If he was already weighted in why would they ban laxatives?
      - - Dunno most of the whys of USADA and VADA who ban common, cheaply purchased over the counter cold decongestants, corticoid hemorrhoid salves, Mexican Beef, ect, but allow hyperexpensive BALCO Vic "Vitamins'' & hypobaric pressure training" yielding a performance advantages dwarfing most of the banned items.

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      • Silence
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        #43
        Originally posted by moneytheman
        Only crazy idiots who never seen past 40s said ray looks horrible manny would destroy him 1st round
        You finally got banned lmfao.

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          #44

          Look up him vs sammy angott george cliff tony freddie valentine andy nonnels and tony ancona Dykes,same obsolete tech and flaws as the older one that fought gene/jake/joey and others

          Ray and this era look to be very overextending a lot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements. They don't fight from range much,they leave themselves open a lot of times, and a lot of times they will just throw to the body and not protect themselves. The Carlos era were able to protect the body with 1 hand while punching to the body. along with all the other advances in movement, along with being way smoother in movements the ray era They use mostly counters when up close. The lateral movement is very basic. They don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly. They have to stop then punch most of the time. Their feet are mostly tiptoeing.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Silence

            You finally got banned lmfao.






            He at his best still looks like a 30s-40s fighter

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxil4OkEtUk 80s no names way more advanced than the whole 30-40s

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RitgTiTvXc 19 years old 80s no names way more advanced than the whole 30-40s​​​​

            i'm here to spread my vision and what's on recorded footage,I cannot alter footage or can I alter the past and make it show things in future era's,my mission is to spread the truth,that is what he will continue to do that no matter the opposition who goes against it

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              #46
              Originally posted by Silence

              You finally got banned lmfao.
              - - Used to be a sinker, but now a floater...

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                #47
                Originally posted by Ascended







                He at his best still looks like a 30s-40s fighter

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxil4OkEtUk 80s no names way more advanced than the whole 30-40s

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RitgTiTvXc 19 years old 80s no names way more advanced than the whole 30-40s​​​​

                i'm here to spread my vision and what's on recorded footage,I cannot alter footage or can I alter the past and make it show things in future era's,my mission is to spread the truth,that is what he will continue to do that no matter the opposition who goes against it
                Why don't we just call you a moron and move on, Moneytheman.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                  Are not laxatives banned as a (dangerous) weight reducing aid? If he was already weighted in why would they ban laxatives?
                  I can't remember in great detail and I have no notes on the subject but from my memory the major testers like USADA have a vague sort of catch-all wording that's something to the effect of any substance the athlete believes gives them an advantage is banned.

                  A while back I became curious what was the standards for a drug or supplement to be banned. So I wasn't looking for laxatives per-se but I think with the vague wording yes they are banned. I'll look around and see if I can't find more solid info.

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