How Did Tyson Fury succeed where Muhammad Ali failed?

[max baer]

Victory yes, absence of rematch, no. Just an opinion.

oh willy i just cant, kind of, how can i say, i mean, sill i mean very stup i mean klitschko rematch. oh willy willy willy my dear dear boy i promise i will always tolerate you and defend to the death your right to express your opinions as they are and as it says in the bible people in glass houses, let he who is without sin cast the.....
oh willy. Dont let wise guys get you down always remember that you count and your opinions have value and so do you no matter how completely and utterly ....... sill.....!!!! i know some people get very angry when others write silly things but i will defend to the death your God given right to say whatever you believe no matter how completely and utterly sill...!!!

[QueensburyRules]

i like you willow the wisp like i used to love the cartoon of the same name in 1985 after school!!
Fury went to germany to outpoint a superchamp. I think "you're gonna do WHAT??"
But he did that. You know we talk about fighters can i compare great fighters to great composers like elgar and holst. Fury is like mozart and joshua is like salieri. If you watch the movie amedeous. Fury mocks joshua who so wants to be great and is so upset with envy. Some fighters are fantastic like rocky and joe frazier through sheer hard work and others are geniuses like ali, tyson and fury. You watch it and see how everyone is tuning in or going around their mates house to watch on saturday and everyone is talking about the fight. Fury tyson and ali were those types. klitschko had fights so dull they were not pay per view in the uk they were not even on a main channel they were on channel 5 an obscure nothingy channel. noone cared so boring.
The geniuses not only have the boxing gift but they know how to get attention and stir up the worlds interest.
Fury is at his best when he is light hearted and funny and mocking the other guy. I read the press and each time he says something funny the newspapers love reporting it like when he was gonna introduce wank lotion the papers love that stuff gareth davies and steve bunce love all that stuff so do people.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...bating-lotion/
i like fury's style of boxing but I so wish he would just finish usek or ruiz and bomb them out in a round or two. I'd love that. Too many people on here go on about it fluffy duster or whatever so I would love him to do a tom schwarz on one of them and blow them away. I would f****ng love that just to shut up people saying he cant knock out well. please excuse this post a bit I am just going to bed a bit wasted. but do you get my point at all?

- - Amadeus was 90% fictional as surely you must know Hollywood and other movie bastions are.

Mozart used Amade as in Wolfgang Amade Mozart even as Amade was never part of his Christian name. In Salzburg, Salieri was head of the court and Mozart just a pipsqueak kiddie. They actually collaborated on works as Mozart matured before moving to Vienna. Mozart who was sickly the whole of his life was said to have died of Yellow Fever, but no matter was placed in a mass gravesite unmarked and probably built over by now.

Fury would be good Hollywood fiber but for the fact than he's an unpalatable Brit. When push came to shove, he spit his coked up dummy and played the mental health card like any rascal up for the death penalty might.

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- - Amadeus was 90% fictional as surely you must know Hollywood and other movie bastions are.

Mozart used Amade as in Wolfgang Amade Mozart even as Amade was never part of his Christian name. In Salzburg, Salieri was head of the court and Mozart just a pipsqueak kiddie. They actually collaborated on works as Mozart matured before moving to Vienna. Mozart who was sickly the whole of his life was said to have died of Yellow Fever, but no matter was placed in a mass gravesite unmarked and probably built over by now.

Fury would be good Hollywood fiber but for the fact than he's an unpalatable Brit. When push came to shove, he spit his coked up dummy and played the mental health card like any rascal up for the death penalty might.

if you changed playing the mental health card to playing the race card in today's climate you'd be pounced upon and really attacked. i guess you consider mental health a subject of derision. you say unpalatable brit. why the need to add brit? unpalatable why? If you said unpalatable black you'd be in some heap of trouble.
I know how bad his bi polar was because I know him and he visited me a good few times and he was unrecognisable he looked like a 60 year old obese old man. I saw how bad he was. I never even knew it was him. I passed him and never had a clue it was him thats how bad he was. I just think you feel it's okay to be derisable about brits and also about bi polar but you wouldnt get away with saying black or gay. Why are us brits fare game for any kind of insults whereas wokes wont stand for even the slightest derisary comment about the types i said. Is it that harry and meg type of attitude where they feel us brits are fare game for any insult yet you even take a slight rise about race or sexuality and you lose your entire life to the mod of wokes. What Say You?
Also I know its a film not real. That doesnt mean you cannot draw conclusions. One nil to me!!!

[max baer]

Maybe i was a bit harsh you were only engaging in light hearted sparring. sorry if i was ott

[QueensburyRules]

if you changed playing the mental health card to playing the race card in today's climate you'd be pounced upon and really attacked. i guess you consider mental health a subject of derision. you say unpalatable brit. why the need to add brit? unpalatable why? If you said unpalatable black you'd be in some heap of trouble.
I know how bad his bi polar was because I know him and he visited me a good few times and he was unrecognisable he looked like a 60 year old obese old man. I saw how bad he was. I never even knew it was him. I passed him and never had a clue it was him thats how bad he was. I just think you feel it's okay to be derisable about brits and also about bi polar but you wouldnt get away with saying black or gay. Why are us brits fare game for any kind of insults whereas wokes wont stand for even the slightest derisary comment about the types i said. Is it that harry and meg type of attitude where they feel us brits are fare game for any insult yet you even take a slight rise about race or sexuality and you lose your entire life to the mod of wokes. What Say You?
Also I know its a film not real. That doesnt mean you cannot draw conclusions. One nil to me!!!

- - Be like me advocating a ********ic state of voters waging perpetual war on the rest of the populace. A ********ic state of voters deciding their own fate is admirable, but perpetual war ain't.

Same deal with race, sex, religion, ect. Being more educated than the other feller and then using that against him/her/it to impoverish them while forcing them into a limited life ain't aspirational.

Fury, Allegedly, and Arum were and likely still are Mob affiliated. Most fighters are not, and I don't have to accept that status quo in any meaningful way other than it exists just like murder, fraud, ****, ect.

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- - Be like me advocating a ********ic state of voters waging perpetual war on the rest of the populace. A ********ic state of voters deciding their own fate is admirable, but perpetual war ain't.

Same deal with race, sex, religion, ect. Being more educated than the other feller and then using that against him/her/it to impoverish them while forcing them into a limited life ain't aspirational.

Fury, Allegedly, and Arum were and likely still are Mob affiliated. Most fighters are not, and I don't have to accept that status quo in any meaningful way other than it exists just like murder, fraud, ****, ect.

Yeah but you should work on your grammer punchuation and spelling!!!!!!
two nil to me!

[Willie Pep 229]

oh willy i just cant, kind of, how can i say, i mean, sill i mean very stup i mean klitschko rematch. oh willy willy willy my dear dear boy i promise i will always tolerate you and defend to the death your right to express your opinions as they are and as it says in the bible people in glass houses, let he who is without sin cast the.....
oh willy. Dont let wise guys get you down always remember that you count and your opinions have value and so do you no matter how completely and utterly ....... sill.....!!!! i know some people get very angry when others write silly things but i will defend to the death your God given right to say whatever you believe no matter how completely and utterly sill...!!!

16 lines to call me crazy not a single line to explain why he ducked the rematch.

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16 lines to call me crazy not a single line to explain why he ducked the rematch.

I know the way klitschko was unleashing attack after brutal attack and landing at will its amazing to think he wouldnt batter up fury again at manchester arena. Innit!
the way klitschko was beating fury around the ring was like clay vs cleveland bigcat williams. Ive never seen judges so blatently voting for their countryman aye willie

[Willie Pep 229]

I know the way klitschko was unleashing attack after brutal attack and landing at will its amazing to think he wouldnt batter up fury again at manchester arena. Innit!
the way klitschko was beating fury around the ring was like clay vs cleveland bigcat williams. Ive never seen judges so blatently voting for their countryman aye willie

Now where are you going? I never even came close to suggesting the decision was wrong. I called the fight boring and the issue undecided.

No one, in this thread, not even me, has suggested that the decision was bad or that Wald dominated Fury. Why did you write such a silly response?

If an almost decade long champion loses his title by decision and is competive he deserves a rematch. He doesn't deserve a new champion who ducks him claimimg he's not emotionally up to ths task.

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Now where are you going? I never even came close to suggesting the decision was wrong. I called the fight boring and the issue undecided.

No one, in this thread, not even me, has suggested that the decision was bad or that Wald dominated Fury. Why did you write such a silly response?

If an almost decade long champion loses his title by decision and is competive he deserves a rematch. He doesn't deserve a new champion who ducks him claimimg he's not emotionally up to ths task.

Nah i know im only jesting. You make a very good arguement. Like with all boxing only time can tell. I think and want fury to always win.