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  • #21
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    Wasn't Conn the one who uninentally caused Joe Louis to quip " He can run but he can't hide."

    The news guys asked Billy if he would be bulking up for his coming bout with Louis, Conn replied no, he would stay at his natural weight and beat Louis with his speed. Upon hearing Conn's replied, and with that wonderful dry wit he always displayed, Louis replied thus.
    - - Young Clay/old Ali were mouthy lower IQs than the slow Southern drawl of Joe who was infinitely more higher order succinct.

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    • #22
      No minimum weight.Heavyweights don't need to make weight, If you want to fight at heavyweight, you can. But you don't see it these days The average heavyweight in top then is well over 215 pounds, and has good amateur experience at heavyweight. No man is ****** enough at 155-200 pounds to even try. Someone will say what about Usyk! Well his walk around weight is well above the cruiser weight limit and he had to drain weight to weigh in there.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post
        No minimum weight.Heavyweights don't need to make weight, If you want to fight at heavyweight, you can. But you don't see it these days The average heavyweight in top then is well over 215 pounds, and has good amateur experience at heavyweight. No man is ****** enough at 155-200 pounds to even try. Someone will say what about Usyk! Well his walk around weight is well above the cruiser weight limit and he had to drain weight to weigh in there.
        - - No commish gonna sanction sub 200 heavy fights because there is a minimum weight of 200 lbs needed to fight as a heavy weight because of liability laws...extra emphasis on DUHHHHH...

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        • #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - No commish gonna sanction sub 200 heavy fights because there is a minimum weight of 200 lbs needed to fight as a heavy weight because of liability laws...extra emphasis on DUHHHHH...
          Takes us back to the wording in the Nevada Commission regulaions: "all over 195 lbs."

          I suspect that Nevada does take on some liability and idenfying the weight division plays into that. I can see the Commission refusing a Canelo - Fury go because it just wouodn't be insurable. Way too much liability attached to denoting it as a HW go.

          Which now makes me think is there any such thing in Nevada called a catch weight bout and if so does it have weight ranges?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

            Takes us back to the wording in the Nevada Commission regulaions: "all over 195 lbs."

            I suspect that Nevada does take on some liability and idenfying the weight division plays into that. I can see the Commission refusing a Canelo - Fury go because it just wouodn't be insurable. Way too much liability attached to denoting it as a HW go.

            Which now makes me think is there any such thing in Nevada called a catch weight bout and if so does it have weight ranges?
            - - Vegas Commish always ready for special exemption fights, hence Vander vs the against equally geriatric Botha in the day. Much depends on who's in charge in the moment.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - No commish gonna sanction sub 200 heavy fights because there is a minimum weight of 200 lbs needed to fight as a heavy weight because of liability laws...extra emphasis on DUHHHHH...

              Can you show me this?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post


                Can you show me this?
                - - Gonna let U and U alone go search out sub 200 lb fighters fighting heavies in sanctioned bouts since they bumped cruiser to 200.

                Go get em, Tiger!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                  Takes us back to the wording in the Nevada Commission regulaions: "all over 195 lbs."

                  I suspect that Nevada does take on some liability and idenfying the weight division plays into that. I can see the Commission refusing a Canelo - Fury go because it just wouodn't be insurable. Way too much liability attached to denoting it as a HW go.

                  Which now makes me think is there any such thing in Nevada called a catch weight bout and if so does it have weight ranges?
                  - - Canelo fought a half dozen catchwt bouts in Vegas

                  Just another reminder all sub heavy weight classes came out of catchweight bouts.

                  As to boxing credibility, this a puzzling example of weight fudging---
                  • Louis' weight was announced as 199½ and Conn's as 174. However, it has been reported that Louis actually weighed 204 and Conn was 169.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Canelo fought a half dozen catchwt bouts in Vegas

                    Just another reminder all sub heavy weight classes came out of catchweight bouts.

                    As to boxing credibility, this a puzzling example of weight fudging---
                    • Louis' weight was announced as 199½ and Conn's as 174. However, it has been reported that Louis actually weighed 204 and Conn was 169.
                    You can see why the promoters might just want to make those small changes in the numbers.

                    With Louis it's like the 99 cents things we buy.

                    Take him right up to the number but don't say two hundred. Make the audience say 'one hundred and . . ."

                    204 lbs is more than a mere five pounds heavier than 199. It sounds too big for Conn. LOL

                    On the other hand anything over 170, as in 174, sounds like a LHW. Let the 'six' (169) enter into the conversation and people will hear MW and say too small.

                    Yea, I think they were small but smart promotional lies.

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