How Many Defences Against Ring Ranked Heavyweights Did Joe Louis Make?

[QueensburyRules]

He wasn't unranked. Raked second at heavyweight by Ring prior to the first Louis fight.



You can find those details from the study I did earlier this year:

Louis & Ali: https://www.ringtv.com/634945-to-be-...rankings-10-1/
Holmes: https://www.ringtv.com/634728-to-be-...ankings-40-31/
Wlad: https://www.ringtv.com/634641-to-be-...ankings-60-51/

- - Yeah, you posted some of those early lead segments for us to follow, but most guys here weren't much interested since they need a much hated protagonist to argue with.

[Ivich]

He wasn't unranked. Raked second at heavyweight by Ring prior to the first Louis fight.



You can find those details from the study I did earlier this year:

Louis & Ali: https://www.ringtv.com/634945-to-be-...rankings-10-1/
Holmes: https://www.ringtv.com/634728-to-be-...ankings-40-31/
Wlad: https://www.ringtv.com/634641-to-be-...ankings-60-51/

Yes rechecking his results, wins over heavyweights
Dorazio
Cooper
McCoy
Pastor
Savold
Hasset
Barlund
Knox
Should have entitled him to a ranking.As I stated I was going solely by the end of year rankings.Thank you for the information and the correction.

[Dr. Z]

He wasn't unranked. Raked second at heavyweight by Ring prior to the first Louis fight.



You can find those details from the study I did earlier this year:

Louis & Ali: https://www.ringtv.com/634945-to-be-...rankings-10-1/
Holmes: https://www.ringtv.com/634728-to-be-...ankings-40-31/
Wlad: https://www.ringtv.com/634641-to-be-...ankings-60-51/

Wow, thanks. Each fighter deserves his on thread based on this research. Do you have Lenox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko's and Tyson Fury's recored vs ring magazine ranked opponents too?

[crold1]

Wow, thanks. Each fighter deserves his on thread based on this research. Do you have Lenox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko's and Tyson Fury's recored vs ring magazine ranked opponents too?

Lewis was here: https://www.ringtv.com/634689-to-be-...ankings-50-41/

For some older time fighters in the study, recall that the "record" against ranked foes includes losses and draws to unranked fighters and is contained to the period of their first and last ranking in the magazine

Vitali and Fury didn't crack the study top 100 but I have Fury at 4-0-1 (Wlad, Wilder, Whyte all Ring ranked) to date.

Vitali was 7-2 with the following results (including opponent ranking and the cover date of the issue the ranking came from:

Chris Byrd (10) - Hvy - 07/00
Lennox Lewis (0) - Hvy - 10/03
Corrie Sanders (3) - Hvy - S/04
Danny Williams (9) - Hvy - 04/05
Sam Peter (2) - Hvy - 12/08
Juan Carlos Gomez (9) - Hvy - 06/09
Chris Arreola (6) - Hvy - 11/09
Kevin Johnson (10) - Hvy - 02/10
Tomasz Adamek (2) - Hvy - 11/11,

[Dr. Z]

Lewis was here: https://www.ringtv.com/634689-to-be-...ankings-50-41/

For some older time fighters in the study, recall that the "record" against ranked foes includes losses and draws to unranked fighters and is contained to the period of their first and last ranking in the magazine

Vitali and Fury didn't crack the study top 100 but I have Fury at 4-0-1 (Wlad, Wilder, Whyte all Ring ranked) to date.

Vitali was 7-2 with the following results (including opponent ranking and the cover date of the issue the ranking came from:

Chris Byrd (10) - Hvy - 07/00
Lennox Lewis (0) - Hvy - 10/03
Corrie Sanders (3) - Hvy - S/04
Danny Williams (9) - Hvy - 04/05
Sam Peter (2) - Hvy - 12/08
Juan Carlos Gomez (9) - Hvy - 06/09
Chris Arreola (6) - Hvy - 11/09
Kevin Johnson (10) - Hvy - 02/10
Tomasz Adamek (2) - Hvy - 11/11,

Thanks again. Herbie Hide and Kirk Johnson I think were ranked by ring magazine.

[Willow The Wisp]

Louis made 25 title defences excluding that aberration against Johnny Davis . How many do you think were against Ring Ranked Heavyweights?

37 Farr
38 Mann
38 Thomas
38 Schmeling
39 Lewis Light Heavy Champ
39 Roper
39 Galento
39 Pastor
40 Godoy
40 Paychek
40 Godoy
40 McCoy
41 Burman
41 Dorazio
41 Simon
41 Musto
41 Baer
41 Conn
41 Nova
42 Baer
42 Simon
46 Conn
46 Mauriello
47 Walcott
48Walcott

Are sourcing your old Ring magazines or just the on line annual ratings???

[crold1]

Thanks again. Herbie Hide and Kirk Johnson I think were ranked by ring magazine.

Nope. Neither was ranked when Vitali beat them.

[Dr. Z]

Okay, then all the fighters had to be ranked when they fought them, which differs a lot form if they were ranked at all. Do I have this correct now? This is a Herculean amount of re-search for 100 fighter's.

[crold1]

Okay, then all the fighters had to be ranked when they fought them, which differs a lot form if they were ranked at all. Do I have this correct now? This is a Herculean amount of re-search for 100 fighter's.

If you read this, it explains what actually went into it:

https://www.ringtv.com/article/to-be-the-best-intro/

I’ve also found corrections and will continue to update ad Infinitum. Haha. I still update a database I have of all their rankings every new published issue

https://www.ringtv.com/634216-to-be-...nkings-100-91/

[Willow The Wisp]

Good thread Ivich