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[Willie Pep 229]

Yes, it seemed that an International title is watered down world title. Even if the international title has the word world in it.

Are international titles just the new 'European Title' renamed to be more inclusive?

[markusmod]

Yes, it seemed that an International title is watered down world title. Even if the international title has the word world in it.

Not really, it's just a regional belt to work your way up the rankings

[User Name HERE]

I am beginning to wonder if it is all confusing by design.

[Willie Pep 229]

I am beginning to wonder if it is all confusing by design.

By design, no. That none have the desire or motivation to clear up the confusion, yes.

[Anthony342]

I am beginning to wonder if it is all confusing by design.

It's gotten that way yes. That's why the hardcore fans go by lineal and Ring Magazine champion. Or undisputed, when a fighter can usually capture and keep all the belts, with all the BS mandatories they're made to fight to keep all 4 belts to stay undisputed. But it's pretty easy to look up, at least. Check a fighter's record on Wikipedia, sometimes boxrec and it should tell you if they have lineal, Ring or every available major title in their weight class (WBC, WBA, IBF, now also WBO).

[The Old LefHook]

One facetious and at the same disgusting matter involving rankings, is that if you read each Org's. top 10 rankings, not that many guys are even on two of the lists, let alone all four or more. These outfits are in heavy competition with one another. In reality, any Og's top ten is in fact about a top 35. That means 35 made the cut into the top 10. How can we not be disgusted?

[The Old LefHook]

—	Tyson Fury	Tyson Fury	Oleksandr Usyk (S) Daniel Dubois (R)	Tyson Fury	Oleksandr Usyk	Oleksandr Usyk
Tyson Fury	Oleksandr Usyk	Oleksandr Usyk	vacant	Deontay Wilder	vacant	Joe Joyce
Oleksandr Usyk	Anthony Joshua	Anthony Joshua	Michael Hunter	Joe Joyce	Luis Ortiz	Joseph Parker
Anthony Joshua	Deontay Wilder	Deontay Wilder	Robert Helenius	Joseph Parker	Filip Hrgovic	Frank Sánchez
Deontay Wilder	Andy Ruiz	Joseph Parker	Hughie Fury	Frank Sánchez	Anthony Joshua	Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker	Joseph Parker	Dillian Whyte	Anthony Joshua	Andy Ruiz	Tony Yoka	Andy Ruiz
Andy Ruiz	Joe Joyce	Andy Ruiz	Martin Bakole	Arslanbek Makhmudov	Joe Joyce	Daniel Dubois
Dereck Chisora	Dillian Whyte	Luis Ortiz	Arslanbek Makhmudov	Dillian Whyte	Agit Kabayel	Luis Ortiz
Michael Hunter	Luis Ortiz	Joe Joyce	Zhan Kossobutskiy	Luis Ortiz	Murat Gassiev	Zhilei Zhang
Luis Ortiz	Otto Wallin	Filip Hrgovic	Deontay Wilder	Otto Wallin	Andy Ruiz	Michael Hunter
Joe Joyce	Michael Hunter	Frank Sánchez	Lenier Pero	Robert Helenius	Demsey McKean	Demsey McKean R

[The Old LefHook]

The list above did not print which Org. The first one is The Ring, then TBRB, then WBA, then WBC, then IBF, then WBO.

We concentrate on the last four columns, only for heavyweights, which represent the four major Orgs.

Here are the fighters who did not make all four lists, meaning the top ???. I did not check for how current the rankings are,. It doesn't matter. I am sure you get the point for any month.

1 Joe Joyce did not make every list
2 Robert Helenius
3 Michael Hunter
4 Hughie Fury
5 Tony Joshua!!!
6 Martin Bakole
7 Arslanbek Makhmudov
8 Zahn Kossobutshiy
9 Deontay Wilder!!!
10 Lenier Pero
11 Frank Sanchez
12 Joseph Parker
13 Andy Ruiz
14 Dillian Whyte
15 Otto Wallin
16 Tony Yoka
17 Flip Hrogovic
18 Agit Kabayel
19 Murat Gassiev
20 Demsey McKean
21 Daniel Dubois
22 Zhilei Zhang


Welcome to the top 32 heavyweights in the world, supposedly, folks.

[Willie Pep 229]

The list above did not print which Org. The first one is The Ring, then TBRB, then WBA, then WBC, then IBF, then WBO.

We concentrate on the last four columns, only for heavyweights, which represent the four major Orgs.

Here are the fighters who did not make all four lists, meaning the top ???. I did not check for how current the rankings are,. It doesn't matter. I am sure you get the point for any month.

1 Joe Joyce did not make every list
2 Robert Helenius
3 Michael Hunter
4 Hughie Fury
5 Tony Joshua!!!
6 Martin Bakole
7 Arslanbek Makhmudov
8 Zahn Kossobutshiy
9 Deontay Wilder!!!
10 Lenier Pero
11 Frank Sanchez
12 Joseph
13 Andy Ruiz
14 Dillian Whyte
15 Otto Wallin
16 Tony Yoka
17 Flip Hrogovic
18 Agit Kabayel
19 Murat Gassiev
20 Demsey McKean
21 Daniel Dubois
22 Zhilei Zhang

Welcome to the top 32 heavyweights in the world, supposedly, folks.

Is The Ring calling the title open or are they not denoting champions and the #1 ranking is as high as a fighter can go?

[The Old LefHook]

Did Queensbree write this post for you, by buggery? He may be able to understand it anyway.