The Heavyweight Championship of the Soviet Union 1917 - 1991

[QueensburyRules]

Of course Stalin would have to kill any boxers who had already traveled abroad. Western influence was bad in every way, and even those who had been exposed to it were often killed for only that reason. [I]The First Circle[/I], one of my favorite novels, chronicles all that, and examines the lives led by scientists who were held captive yet treated well enough that they might still remain scientifically productive. But not too well. All prisoners had to sleep with their arms out of the covers, even in the freezing Russian winters. The title refers to Dante's inferno, where the first circle, called limbo, was the easiest Hell.

- - OK, U confirm what I long suspected, that U glean U history from fiction.

It's OK. U still get U weekly shipment of Chinese dentures unfettered.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - OK, U confirm what I long suspected, that U glean U history from fiction.

It's OK. U still get U weekly shipment of Chinese dentures unfettered.

That can be OK if not enlightening - one gains more about the fight game from Rod Sterling's Requiem for a Heavyweight that a Showtime documentary promoting Anthony Josuha.

It depends what you're trying to find out.

[markusmod]

Good list.

I think you missed one from the 80's....

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He received a lifetime ban from VADA

[travestyny]

His time at the top didn't last long. He seemed to fall off after his first loss, much like Naseem Hamed. His son did pretty well for himself in boxing though.

I don't know. I think he was never the same after killing a man in the ring.

[The Old LefHook]

I don't know. I think he was never the same after killing a man in the ring.

The other guy was not the same either.

[Willow The Wisp]

Some interesting (if choppy) reading on Soviet champion Nicolai Fyodrorovich Korolyov.

https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/104714

Before the free world lamented the implausibility of matching Muhammad Ali against Teofilo Stevenson (as many knowledgeable people in the history board here will remember), the world wondered what would happen if Joe Louis were matched with Russian legend Korolyov.

[QueensburyRules]

That can be OK if not enlightening - one gains more about the fight game from Rod Sterling's Requiem for a Heavyweight that a Showtime documentary promoting Anthony Josuha.

It depends what you're trying to find out.

- - While I would not personally stock my boxing knowledge bank with Rod, near everything he produced was a work of the most unusually wondrous art. Damn cigs cut him down prematurely.

I generally avoid all video media of boxing save for the fights. In fact, I avoid most modern video media period. Rod brought us some of the most incredulous science fiction to the small screen where he and Hitch**** were regulars. Them was the days...

[QueensburyRules]

Some interesting (if choppy) reading on Soviet champion Nicolai Fyodrorovich Korolyov.

https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/104714

Before the free world lamented the implausibility of matching Muhammad Ali against Teofilo Stevenson (as many knowledgeable people in the history board here will remember), the world wondered what would happen if Joe Louis were matched with Russian legend Korolyov.

- - Teofilo was a very makeable fight save Ali was ducking Bobick who knocked out Holmes, but whom Teo KOed in the Olympics.

Then insert Castro for good measure.

[Willow The Wisp]

This thread is too Geeked and it reminds me of trying to Kickstart my old 75' Maico. But I'll give it one more kick before I leave it behind. So a Joe Louis vs. Nicolai Fyodrorovich Korolyov fight at 15 rounds would have been historically important IMO. Behind the Iron Curtain lurking were tough people living hard lives. This was and remains the ideal breeding grounds for good fighters who make the big sacrifices in order to learn how to fight hands on. To this very day, Many will swear that Nicolai Korolyov was the best heavyweight that country (or countries, in today's world map language) ever produced. The fall of communism let loose a range of new cultures that had been rolled up into the Soviet program out into the professional ranks. These would lead to Gennadiy Golovkin, Sergey Kovalev, Mairis Briedis, Vasyl Lomachenco, Artur Grigorian, Oleksandr Usyk, Vasilly Jirov, Grigory Drozd, Ruslan Chagaev, Yuri Arbachakov, Murat Gasssiev, Roman Karmazin, Denis Lebedev, Alexander Povetkin, Dmitril Bivol, and of course, the Klitschko Brothers, just to scratch the surface. We might then imagine that the Legendary Russian might just have offered more than just another "bum of the month" to Louis in the pre-war years!!!!!!

[The Old LefHook]

This thread is too Geeked and it reminds me of trying to Kickstart my old 75' Maico. But I'll give it one more kick before I leave it behind. So a Joe Louis vs. Nicolai Fyodrorovich Korolyov fight at 15 rounds would have been historically important IMO. Behind the Iron Curtain lurking were tough people living hard lives. This was and remains the ideal breeding grounds for good fighters who make the big sacrifices in order to learn how to fight hands on. To this very day, Many will swear that Nicolai Korolyov was the best heavyweight that country (or countries, in today's world map language) ever produced. The fall of communism let loose a range of new cultures that had been rolled up into the Soviet program out into the professional ranks. These would lead to Gennadiy Golovkin, Sergey Kovalev, Mairis Briedis, Vasyl Lomachenco, Artur Grigorian, Oleksandr Usyk, Vasilly Jirov, Grigory Drozd, Ruslan Chagaev, Yuri Arbachakov, Murat Gasssiev, Roman Karmazin, Denis Lebedev, Alexander Povetkin, Dmitril Bivol, and of course, the Klitschko Brothers, just to scratch the surface. We might then imagine that the Legendary Russian might just have offered more than just another "bum of the month" to Louis in the pre-war years!!!!!!

Your bait attracts bad fish who poison the pond.