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  • The Old LefHook
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    Camera and Interview-Friendly Boxers Then And Now

    The opposite of those qualities, unfortunately for him, is exemplified by Larry Holmes. He always came off as bitter and aggrieved over something. His interviews were not filled with fun and slapstick; he was not handsome, or glib either. He was angry.

    That is enough preamble. Back to the opposite subject.

    Of course Cassius Clay was perhaps the most camera-friendly and interview-friendly of them all. No need to elaborate.

    Two guys who were marvels of popularity when they first came along were de la Hoya and Ray Leonard. Both were extremely well spoken, and could be mistaken for white guys on the radio. Such popularity can even withstand fishnet stockings!

    Poor old Sonny Liston came over as the meanest and most dangerous man who ever walked. He had ample reason to not trust the media or anyone else. The tragedy is we never got to know one of the greatest heavyweight champions, and he was actually a man with a bent for humor and wit. Given a little respect, Sonny would have given some great interviews, and we would know him better.

    Marciano always came across as agreeable and gregarious. The camera did not mind him at all, and he had his own TV show.

    Archie Moore garnered quite a bit of sympathy during his career for the obvious reason that he was shut out from the title like someone from the age of ragtime. On top of that old Arch was obviously intelligent and did not seem bitter. The public loves a man who takes his lumps without growing bitter. Any bitterness Archie did feel could usually be subsumed under cordiality and philosophizing. He was quite the philosopher and boxing expositor. Nothing there to dislike.

    Poor old Jack Johnson, a natural showman who was shut out from the show.

    Everyone loved Ray Mancini as a person. He was friendly, eager, and excited about everything.

    One could go on all night.

    Don't forget Bobby Czyz, my favorite expert boxing announcer.
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    • Willie Pep 229
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      One with a twist.

      Livingstone Bramble surprised everyone, going from 'just plain weird' to actually being a nice kid and then a proper man.

      Starting out as a prick (Mancini I) he made himself easy to get along with, which I think was actually him all along.

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        #4
        Originally posted by The Old LefHook
        The opposite of those qualities, unfortunately for him, is exemplified by Larry Holmes. He always came off as bitter and aggrieved over something. His interviews were not filled with fun and slapstick; he was not handsome, or glib either. He was angry.

        One could go on all night.

        Don't forget Bobby Czyz, my favorite expert boxing announcer.
        - - 0-6, 0 KO record vs standing champs makes anyone grumpy.

        Did Czyz melt into alcoholism after he was fired for a drunk driving incident? He always came across as casually cool and well informed as well as well spoken.

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          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - 0-6, 0 KO record vs standing champs makes anyone grumpy.

          Did Czyz melt into alcoholism after he was fired for a drunk driving incident? He always came across as casually cool and well informed as well as well spoken.
          I thought he was suffering from serious dementia. Was not aware he was terminated for drunk driving. Sounds a bit draconian; that should be a survivable failing for a celebrity.

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            I second this. He loves to talk. Hopkins too. And Holyfield.

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              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

              I thought he was suffering from serious dementia. Was not aware he was terminated for drunk driving. Sounds a bit draconian; that should be a survivable failing for a celebrity.
              - - I seem to remember a debilitating single auto wreck in NJ needing much physical therapy. Reputed to be of Mensa IQ stature, be a shame to fold from dementia.

              Nobody but caretakers and select family was allowed to see Ali in his last days, but he was a kid vs Marv who was still vigorous in his 60s before being funneled into the Corona vacine for his demise a couple years back, so Bobby awfully young still from an aging standpoint.

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                Frank Bruno was good. His classic interviews with Harry Carpenter comes to mind (Know what I mean 'arry). The brits loved that.

                Carl Froch. A wellarticulated trash talker. Always there with epic soundbites.

                Greg Haugen. See Froch. Same for him.

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                  Pep229, Czyz is perfectly fine. Zero evidence of dementia. I know him. Love to listen to Frank Bruno. Mesmerizing and I don't even know why. Tex Cobb graduated with honors from Temple a number of years ago, a better school than Aberdeen Christian that had once expelled him...but he's nuts! Holmes following Ali he had NO chance, like Ez following Louis, but Charles was both friendly and quite articulate. Henry Cooper was awesome to speak with. Benny Leonard and Max Baer were both fun and hysterical (before my time). So was Willie Pep!!!!! (Who I knew).

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                    Great post by the way, Old Left Hook.

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